Not to mention the people, dying of Covid in the ICU, who continue to insist that it’s all a hoax right up to their dying breath.
Now that’s impermeable.
ETA: Example articles (from last November):
A U.S. judge has allowed Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings Ltd. to demand that passengers show written proof of coronavirus vaccination before they board a ship, dealing a major blow to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis’s effort to ban “vaccine passports.”
In a preliminary ruling issued on Sunday, U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams in Miami said Norwegian would likely prevail on its argument that the “vaccine passport” ban, signed into law by DeSantis in May, jeopardizes public health and is an unconstitutional infringement on Norwegian’s rights.
The judge blocked DeSantis from enforcing the law against Norwegian, allowing the cruise ship operator to proceed with a plan to resume port activity in Miami on Aug. 15. "
The thing is, seriously, that Trump only has to lie a single time before his morons pass it along.
If Fox News vouches for them, it might get through to at least some people.
Crisis anchors.
ISTM an obvious flaw in the “vaccine passport” ban is that it clearly violates the Commerce Clause. Those ships are clearly engaging in interstate commerce. States can’t unilaterally regulate that. Did the judge’s decision mention that?
History lesson: The absence of anything like the Commerce Clause in the Articles of Confederation proved to be a major problem, as the states quickly got into ever-escalating trade and tariff wars with each other. It was one of the major issues that led a group of politicians to re-write the Articles, resulting in our current Constitution. So the Commerce Clause was a fundamental item from Day One, and the Supreme Court has strongly upheld that to this very day.
Isn’t that what happened last time?
Fox News got scared by the Dominion lawsuit, backed off a little, lost ratings, and then came back in full force because their business model is being the most popular peddler of misinformation?
I don’t think this will be enough for DeSantis to simply put roadblocks in front of companies who try to ensure the health of their customers and the survival of their industry.
It’s not enough for him to prevent schools from making their own decisions about public health measures recommended by the CDC.
I think his next step is going to go all out, and forbid any vaccinations in the state, forbid collecting data on Covid and simply decree that is is all a hoax and never actually existed. Hospitals will be required to state that there are no problems and they are “open for business”.
Norwegian advanced three arguments for the injunction: 1) 1st Amendment, 2) Dormant Commerce Clause, and 3) Pre-emption by the CDC’s Conditional Sailing Order. The judge order the motion for injunction granted due to the likelihood that the Norwegian would prevail on the merits on all three arguments. The ruling is 59 pages.
Interesting. The Court compares Florida’s ban on cruise ships vaccination requirements to an Illinois law requiring trucks to have curved mudguards, while most other states permit (and one other state requires) straight mudguards.
According to a scathing report from the Daily Beast, New York prosecutors have found that Barry Weisselberg, manager of the Trump-owned Wollman ice rink in Central Park, and the son of Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s chief financial officer, avoided taxes while living rent-free in a Trump-owned luxury apartment.
But how did all of this come out? Well, that would be the work of Barry’s ex-wife, Jennifer. See, Jennifer, a cooperating witness, handed over all the receipts, including tax returns and financial documents, to investigators to show that her ex-husband wasn’t reporting all of the luxury perks he was allegedly receiving in his taxable income.
Jenifer claims that the Trump Organization often gave perks to their employees, including paying their tuition. So how did Barry end up in such a high-priced apartment when he was only the manager of an ice rink?
That deal was described as a tax-dodging “scheme to defraud” in the June 3 indictment against the Trump Organization and his father, the company’s chief financial officer. In it, prosecutors said the pad had “no reported rent at all.” The indictment noted that the company “intentionally failed” to report that income or pay associated taxes to federal, state, and local government agencies.
But that isn’t all. During his divorce, Barry testified “that his father paid the leases for his 2015 Lexus RX 350 and his 2018 Range Rover Velar—though his ex-wife maintains that these were company-provided cars.”
“It’s all about control. The apartment, the car, the parking garage, the tuition, your vacations, your life, really,” Jennifer Weisselberg told The Daily Beast. “You’re embedded with them. You’re indebted to them…when you work there, you end up doing crimes.”
“You’re stuck. It’s like a mob. It all stays quiet because they end up owning you,” she said.
He needed 59 pages to say “Fuck you, DeSantis!”?
Honestly, the nurses and docs should meet and just agree that anyone who’s getting oxygen and says “It’s not real”, take the oxygen away and just let them die.
I can’t wait for insurance companies to start turning down claims made by people who refused the vaccine.
I think this is as about as good an idea as it’ll get to deal with this.
Other than the chicken-fucking “hoax! unto my dieing breath!” ass-goblins (of whom, I really couldn’t give, now, one wet gerrysmith’s whorewiggle), the ad should reach just about everyone else that it’s made to reach.
damn crisis angels
Based on an old joke, but several of these folks will eventually die of COVID and at the pearly gates, they’ll ask St Peter what actually got them, and he’ll tell them it was COVID, of course. And they’ll turn to the next person and say, “This goes higher up than we thought”.
For them, it’s the rest of the world that needs to bend to their reality. Nothing short of constant, daily messages over the course of years will even start to change their minds. I suppose literally seeing bodies lying in the streets might, but COVID isn’t that deadly.
I just wanted to acknowledge this insult. Classic SDMB creativity. Bravo.
Drag em. Drag em to the poorhouse.
When are these lawsuits actually happening? When will we see Mike Lindell trying to produce his compelling evidence in court? When will we see Rudy sweating brown goop on the stand?
C’mon, Dominion - get crushing!
The sooner, the better, that’s for sure!