My toast after popping open a celebratory bottle of Prosecco last night: “Here’s to Donald Trump’s indictment. And many more!”
Nice one. I’ve stolen it.
Overview of the unsealed criminal idictment. MeidasTouch (15min). Looks pretty bad (in a good way).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZqDhd4aoI
This is some serious schadenfreude, I suppose. Basically, Trump’s getting campaign workers akin to a MLM scheme. So, where’s the schadenfreude?
The Daily Beast noted that it’s a “conventional practice” to pay around $15.75 per hour, but Donald Trump is opting for a different strategy: “an army of unpaid volunteers.”
Worth every penny!
You get what you paid for.
I mean, it’s not like he has difficulty getting his name out there. I wouldn’t pay for a staff either.
“Here. Take these beautiful boxes of papers that prove I’m a superhero with tears on the lids to the furnace outside, 17 miles away near Gitmo. “
@JohnT noted somewhere in the threads that one of the disclosures by Trump tracks back to Kid Rock.
I cherish the thought of Kid Rock being called as a witness for the USA at donald trump’s criminal trial next year.
Hell, he’ll be up for Secretary of State if Trump gets reelected.
I’ve thought about this, and I say no, not to me. The documents theft is horrific, but it’s unlikely any major, long-term security damage actually happened (possible, but not probable).
But trying to subvert our democracy? That’s equally criminal, and harmful in a bigger way (IMHO).
(I’m assuming by “J6” you’re including the Georgia sedition/treason, and related electoral misdeeds. The attack on the Capitol was awful, too, but less obviously the direct fault of Trump as a criminal individual.)
I’ve heard multiple experts (usually on MSNBC, my go-to) who said hostile foreign agents (1) were certainly aware of the existence, (2) had an unusually easy access available, and (3) make any confidence that “at least nothing bad happened” unsupportable. The concern ranged from “I would be shocked we weren’t compromised by hostiles” to “I’m very worried.” Trump created a smorgasbord of tasty intel for hostile agents, with all the security of your neighborhood pool.
These were ex-FBI and Intel guys. And they all said to a person that we may not know for sure until some event or intel surfaces. Or perhaps never.
I would not be happy AT ALL if I was an ‘Agent’ working for the US overseas. Or even if I was in the US for that matter.
I would also not be happy if I were a malicious foreign agent who was just now finding out that a veritable cornucopia of priceless military intelligence could have been had for the low low price of asking the location of the loo.
i was thinking the same thing. could you imagine reading this indictment and missed the chance at getting all the goodies? you might end up falling from a window.
the one pic. of the spilled box makes me wonder if someone wasn’t going through the boxes and had to make a quick exit.
I hoping that Trump is convicted. When he’s sentenced, I’ll think of this:
Per the experts I mentioned, it is impossible that the usual hostile suspects (Russia, China, etc.) were unaware of the existence of this treasure trove well before it was seized and secured. That was their point: How could anyone have any confidence this intel wasn’t accessed by a hostile entity? The most worried said it was likelier than not, that it would be “spy malpractice” to not have taken advantage of this unsecured archive of critical data.
Think of all that Mission Impossible stuff needed in the movies to gain access to the top secret stuff. No need! As someone mentioned, getting to the intel would have been as simple as asking which way the restroom was. A gig an experienced spy would have salivated over.
This is a very important point. Even if by some miracle, none of the intel was accessed by a hostile entity, the uncontested facts about the care the U.S. apparently gives its top secrets scares existing resources AND makes it less likely we’ll get new sources.
This particular Trump shit show absolutely has already compromised our national security. We are all less safe, period. Not a hypothetical, a fact.
There was a copy machine in the room with the boxes. Since I know nothing about modern copiers - is there any way the machine recorded the copy? I know they keep an internal log of # of copies, but is there any way of determining what was copied? It also might be a good idea (that the Feds have already thought of and acted upon) to correlate the times the copier was used with just who was on-site at the time.
I know the copiers in our facility cached data. We couldn’t just trash a useless copier; the info sec guys had to scrub them first. So, you ask a good question.