A poll and general discussion about interracial relationships

I’ve dated Asian guys and a guy who was Ashkenazi Jewish, though I don’t think that quite counts. I would date a guy of any race, if it weren’t for the part where I’m already married. (Funny: my husband and I were the first to get married in both our families, and we are both bland CA white folks. Nearly all of our siblings since then have married interracially/culturally.)

I would (hypothetically) be wary of dating a guy from a patriarchal culture, though, for obvious reasons.

I would be quite turned off by a guy telling me he was only interested in dating white girls. :dubious:

Yes. I’d say that about 60%-75% of the couples on the campuses of Belmont High and Hollywood High in Los Angeles appear to be “interracial.” Maybe 40% of the staff and faculty.

It’s pretty hard not to get into an interracial relationship of one form or another around here.

I feel like kind of an idiot because I said that I hadn’t done anything interracial and then I just realized that I’ve ONLY ever dated had sex interracially. I guess this means I identify as white even when I’m not.

I grew up in Southeast Michigan, which can be a very racist place to live. The only time I ever dated a black man was when I was seventeen; he was a patron at the restaurant where I worked. He was 30 years old, recently divorced with three children. We did not have sex. In fact, that’s the reason I broke up with him after three dates–he would not stop pressuring me for sex and commitment, and kept trying me to parent his children. I was seventeen, and college-bound, and it became pretty clear early on that the relationship was not going to work out. In my estimation he was on the rebound.

His race was not a factor when I considered dating him. I had been raised to be ‘‘color blind’’ by my mother and an attractive man was an attractive man. In fact, I remember having a ‘‘should I or shouldn’t I?’’ conversation with my Aunt, in which I didn’t even reveal his race during the deliberation. I was much more concerned about his age and his children.

I brought him around my grandparents house, and boy, was my grandpa pissed. At the time, I thought it was because I had done a dumbass thing by leaving the house for a date while my grandfather was fixing my car, but looking back, it might have had a whole lot more to do with the race of the person I was dating. There are a lot of racist people in my family, we probably would have gotten a lot of shit if we’d become serious and starting dating more – especially due to his age.

Anyway, I’ve been studying institutional racism and critical race theory over the last year – my first real exposure to this subject – and it has made me significantly rethink the notion of ‘‘color blindness.’’ I would still date someone of another race, but I’d be a lot more cognizant and sensitive to the issues that may potentially arise.

For one thing, I’ve had some discussions with my black female classmates, and a lot of them have a very deep, visceral grief around the idea of black men dating white women. A lot of this has to do with dynamics I don’t fully understand, but it’s more than just jealousy or resentment. It seems more to do with them having a diminished sense of self-worth. With so many men in prison (half of all black men at this point), the pickins are very slim for black women, and it sounds like a significant number of those who remain insist upon dating only white women. With black women pushed into this position where they have to be strong and supportive and keep the community together, a lot of them feel betrayed and diminished when black men reject them. They doubt their own self-worth, and it hurts them.

I am just talking about the views expressed by individual black women in my class, not purporting to speak for an entire race. I am just saying that these views, and the real pain that lies underneath the anger, would definitely make me think twice about dating a black man again.

Anyway, I’m married so it doesn’t matter. My husband and I have plans to adopt when we are ready for children. We are both white but have considered interracial adoption. In the same vein as dating black men, I would think very long and hard about adopting a child of another race. I suppose my recent studies have made it very difficult for me to be ‘‘color blind’’ in any way.

And I realize I’ve discussed blackness to the exclusion of all other races. This is because I haven’t really studied/heard about the experiences of other races, and where I grew up, dating other races is generally not looked down upon as long as it’s not a black person.

Without trying to cause offence by asking, aren’t you an active Mormon?

Oops–forgot a bit of requested information. I’m 27 years old. The relationship I’m discussing occurred in 2001.

I grew up around black people so it was never an issue. Most of my friends have been black. Which may be a subtle form of reverse racism if you think about it.

LOL. I totally empathize - I am the quintessential “Twinkie”, as they dub East Asians who are whitewashed.

I’ve casually dated Korean guys (kinda had to, since I was living in Korea all throughout college and then some) but culturally we are a terrible match. Korean guys have definite expectations of what they want from their girlfriends and I was not it. All my serious relationships have been with white guys.

Kind of a tangent, but I don’t think most Korean guys find me attractive. The Korean idea of feminine beauty is someone very slender with pale skin and a small face - somewhat delicate. I am “big” by Korean standards (although I’m just over 5 ft and in the US I wear a size 2 or 4) and am not pale or delicate.

In Korea interracial couples are viewed with some skepticism. Many people assume that a Korean girl dating a white guy is somewhat “lower class” who can’t even speak English very well and has some kind of white person fetish, and that the white guy is also someone with an Asian fetish. I take some cynical satisfaction in surprising people with my American Midwestern accent when I’m with my boyfriend. We’ve encountered some hostile stares from random Korean strangers on the street but no one has actually come up to us and said anything.

When my boyfriend and I visited his hometown (Newtownards, near Belfast) we were quite openly stared at - or at least, I was - but didn’t encounter any open hostility - it was more curiosity.

Yep. :slight_smile:

That doesn’t mean I’m not a feminist, or that I don’t expect to be an equal partner in a relationship.

I’m a white guy currently in a long term relationship with a Puerto Rican girl. She has met most of my family and I’ve met all of her close family and so far no one has batted an eye about the racial difference.

  • Is race ever a factor for you with regard to your dating choices?

Not really, hot is hot as far as I’m concerned. I’d be more worried about cultural differences than racial differences.

  • Do other interracial couples you run across grab your attention more than a same-race couple? If so, why?

Kinda, but only briefly. In general, I don’t really care either way.

  • Would you be turned off, unaffected, or complimented if someone new you were dating told you that they were mainly/only interested in dating people of your race?

Not unless it was made clear that my race was what was keeping us together. If that was what got us together, I don’t really care as long as we have a real relationship in all the other normal ways.

I’m 35 and a rather pale caucasian.

For a few years I dated a Panamanian woman who had a plethora of heritages. She’s (to me anyway) the color of a mug of Swiss Miss- medium brown with reddish undertones.

In the end, one of the many reasons it didn’t work out was that she was not a good match with my family. My parents disapproved of the relationship, not because of race, but because she was not Jewish.

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I dated almost exclusively white guys growing up, but not because I wouldn’t have been interested in other racial groups - I had some huge crushes on Black and Thai guys growing up - but because I just tend to date from among my friends, and well… I’m a geek, my friends are geeks, and geeks tend to skew pale.

However, despite my fetish for tall pale goth-boys with big noses and zero body fat (this is where Asimovian breaks out in giggles, due to having met Oni no Husband) I wound up married to an absolutely wonderful man who identifies as Filipino. He is also the product of an interracial relationship - his dad is a Filipino immigrant, his mom is a blonde girl from Rhode Island.

Oni no Husband’s dating history is very diverse - he’s dated nearly every race/ethnicity except for Filipina. He says he generally preferred non-white women, because white girls would tend to assume that because his mom is white and he was born/raised in the US that he was white, that his Filipino-ness was negligible and a sort of quirk rather than an essential part of who he is. I try not to do that, but I’ve never asked him whether I succeed.

I do like to tease him by pointing out that, should we successfully reproduce, his child will be 3/4 WHITE! And will have a very good chance of being BLONDE!!! The thought gives him mock-horrors.

He introduced me to Spam musubi. It’s all good.

Heh. I’m South Asian–brown on the outside, white on the inside. I guess that makes me a…devil dog? Or coconut? Glad to know I’m not too self-hating for posting that. I felt so stupid right after I posted and was all, “Wait, I’m ethnic.” Maybe I should start a thread on racial identification…

It’s a US-based forum, of course, but it’s worth mentioning that in other places different codes apply. I’m Australian (white male), and I answered “Yes” to I’ve both dated and had sex with someone of another race.

I had a relationship with a woman of Chinese ancestry, and had a relationship with a woman of Turkish Muslim background, which probably counts as “interracial” in this context. I’ve also
had relationships with several women who had some Aboriginal ancestry, though only one looked partially Aboriginal: she was 1/4 Aboriginal. Plenty of white Australians have a small amount of Aboriginal ancestry, it’s probably about as common (and as meaningful) as white Americans having a small amount of native American ancestry: unless it’s visually obvious, it makes no difference at all and you’re “white”.

  • Is race ever a factor for you with regard to your dating choices?
    Well, I’m chronically ill and a part-pensioner now, I don’t get to “date” because not having a career is a deal-killer for the women I meet. However, in terms of who I’d be prepared to “date” if it were a possibility, race isn’t a factor. Any colouring is fine by me. It’s all good.

  • Do other interracial couples you run across grab your attention more than a same-race couple? If so, why?
    Yes, because it says a lot about how race/culture affects female choices: You never see an African-descended woman with a white man, but the opposite is quite common. White women with Asian men is not that common, it’s far more common to see Asian women with white men.

  • Would you be turned off, unaffected, or complimented if someone new you were dating told you that they were mainly/only interested in dating people of your race?
    Well, the Chinese-Australian woman I was with for a while had only ever been with white men, but that seemed more cultural than racial to me: her interests and lifestyle were different to mainstream Asian-Australians. She told me she found some Asian men physically attractive but that she never met any that were into the same things she was. So she wasn’t avoiding them, just never found a compatible one. In her case it wasn’t about money/social status (she was with me, after all), which is the more usual reason why Asian women are interested in white men.

I’m generalising here, and there are always exceptions, but as a general rule-of-thumb there are definite hierarchies that are apparent in patterns of interracial relationships.

Male, 48 yrs, New Jersey

I’m in an interracial marriage. I’m half black, half white, and my wife is Hispanic from Panama. We belong to a number of multiethnic groups, e.g. Mavin (mavinfoundation.org), Mixed Heritage Center (mixedheritagecenter.org), Swirl (swirlinc.org), Loving Day (lovingday.org), among others. We also have group get-togethers and other social events where mixed race people, interracial couples, and sometimes their children can discuss issues, unique challenges, and benefits of living with or having a spouse, SO, friends, parents, or children who may be multiracial, or are in an interracial environment.

I’ve never dated another biracial person. I’ve dated girls/women of various races and ethnic groups, i.e., white, black, Asian, Israeli, Yemeni, Puerto Rican, Peruvian, Indian, and Panamanian.

- Is race ever a factor for you with regard to your dating choices?
Race has never been a factor for me when selecting a partner.

- Do other interracial couples you run across grab your attention more than a same-race couple? If so, why?
We interact with other interracial couples and bi/multiracial friends all the time, so it’s normal for us.

- Would you be turned off, unaffected, or complimented if someone new you were dating told you that they were mainly/only interested in dating people of your race?
This happened to me a number of times when I was younger and dating, and yes, I did find it offensive, not to mention shallow.

My parents, who are not the same race, had a very difficult time when they began dating. It was the early '60s, and they were in Kansas. A white man and a black woman together raised everyone’s hackles in Saline county back then. The challenges became more pronounced when they married and began having children, as friends and family on both sides loudly and relentlessly judged and ultimately disappeared from my parent’s lives. I spent my first 7 or so years in an environment where not only didn’t members of different races date, children of different races didn’t even play together. My siblings and I, being too fair skinned to be considered black but not quite fair enough to be considered white didn’t fit with either of the two ethnic groups in our town. I can’t adequately express how terrible it is not to be able to make friends as a kid because of the ignorance of others, but that’s how it was.

If you have any questions, ask away. I’ll try to answer them.

I’m white and my wife is of Chinese descent (although she was born in Chicago).

I actually dated very interracially very infrequently before I met my wife. Not because I had anything against it; it just didn’t happen.

ETA: I’m 47 and I live in the San Francisco Bay Area.

That’s been my experience, too - religion is a bigger stumbling block than race.

I’m a late-30s Coloured man in South Africa, married (11 years now) to a White woman. We hooked up not too long after the final fall of the old Apartheid regime, met at Uni.

No, it never was. I’d hooked up with most races when I was single.

Only if there’s kids - mixed kids fascinate me, there’s such variance. But actual couples, they’re not so unusual.

Wait, that’s not quite true - Very dark black guys with pale blonde women always attract my attention more, mostly because it’s
a) *very *rare - definitely more so than the reverse.
b) *Aesthetically *quite cool.

I’d be turned off. And out of there faster than a hooker in a gay bar.

Dude. Racial identity issues? I has them.

I forgot to answer the OP’s third question. As an Asian woman I am hypersensitive to the idea of someone dating me for my race - probably to the point of being irrational about it. If a guy comes up to me in a bar my first reaction is to wonder if he has some kind of Asian girl fetish. I would never date anyone if I thought they were attracted to my race rather than me as an individual.

In my case it depends on how you define “race”. Different “color”? No, I’ve never dated or had sex with anybody of a different color, unless you’re the kind of freak who thinks Spaniards are “not white enough” and blonde, blue-eyed guys from the Midwest are “white”. Different “culture”? Yeah, to several different degrees. Of course, since most of it took place in Miami, it wasn’t particularly unusual.

Neither race nor culture are a factor in choosing partners, although I’ve realized they can be a factor in keeping partners. Mind you: the incompatible expectations have happened, among others, with a Hispanic Mr Macho and the Midwestern blonde.