A Psychological Disorder?

Someone in my family has a problem that I have watched develop over a period of about thirty years. He exaggerates everything. If he were a woman, he would be called a “drama queen” – except it goes much deeper than that.

He is never just taken to an emergency room; he is rushed and the situation is handled “stat.”

He always knows someone who has access to intelligence information that is shared with him in small segments and which he feels no hesitation in sharing with us.

He is always the hero of whatever story he is telling.

One of his children, according to him, is endowed with mystical powers.

He is an authority on the details of all of our lives even though he was not a part of those relationships and events.

He is able to interpret what a doctor is “really” trying to say even when the doctor isn’t saying it and expects the rest of the family to then act upon it as if the doctor had actually said it. (“The doctor gave me a ‘knowing look’ and I knew what he meant.”)

He changes stories from the past to make them prettier and nicer and more favorable to all involved than they were.

Members of the family have backed away from contradicting him because he becomes belligerent (though not violent) when confronted. When he is proven wrong, he never acknowledges it, but remains stone silent and changes the subject.

This older man is otherwise intelligent, witty, talented, generous and kind. He is a very loving person and very loveable except when these qualities make it uncomfortable to be around him or have a normal adult conversation with him. I’m not even sure that he is aware that much of what he is saying is false and that may be important.

I’m too close to the situation to be objective. I know that some of it has to do with needing to feel worthy, but I don’t think that is all there is to it.

Are any of you familiar with a disorder like this? I know that no professionals would want to actually diagnose a patient sight-unseen, but any insights, suggestions and links would be appreciated.

DISCLAIMER: IANAD etc.

Baron von Munchausen with a bit of a paranoid complex. Note that “Baron von Munchausen” is not a diagnosis but a comparison. It isn’t Munchausen’s Syndrome, I think, because there is too much other stuff and not enough medical malingering, so to speak.

Best of luck.

IANAD or other medical professional. Try looking over these links and see if the behavior talked about looks familiar.

Histrionic Personality Disorder

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Here comes a completely non expert opinion but I hope you read it anyway…It doesn’t sound like a disorder at all he just likes to exaggerate and this is a part of his personality that you don’t understand, He has probably always been like this but maybe as time goes on he has become more comfortable being himself and you notice it more. If he really is witty, talented, generous and kind then what is the problem? I assume he has friends so think about it, those people choose to spend time around him so he must not be that bad. If he doesn’t get violent just accept his unusual personality or stay away and let him be him. It seems like you just want him to fit into a mold of what a “normal person” acts like but that isn’t going to happen and as long as he is non-violent, kind and takes care of his kids why should he ever change? :slight_smile:

Dear God, it’s my mother, from her pre-disability days.

Or he likes to exaggerate. One or the other. :slight_smile:

Narcissistic personality disorder… 5 indicators out of 9 need to be met in order to make the diagnosis. Sounds to me like “Uncle Zoe” meets at least five of the needed criteria. In order to distinguish NPD from Histrionic symptoms would include the lack of inappropriate behavior such as sexual advances and/or self destructive behavior and possibly a criminal history. It’s not usually a disorder that one needs to worry about the individual harming himself… he’s just overcompensating for his LACK of feeling one with the crowd. His friends flee after awhile his family avoids conversations etc…
Kind of a Cliff Clavin type situation. Knows all and has done it all and always has to one up everybody.

wait a minute…Zoe is that you? I thought you liked your old Uncle t/k. :frowning:

I think I’ll go sulk in the back room for awhile now.
sulk
sulk
sulk
sulk
sulk
pout
pout
pout
pout
pout
etc
etc
etc

BTW Most of us are guilty of this to a degree. The disorder is not uncommon though it is estimated that between 1-2% of the population could be diagnosed as narcissistic.

Get a pamphlet from your local hospital or elsewhere and drop it in the mail. He’ll figure it out and will at least try to make some adjustments in his behavior. If you really like the guy just sit and have a talk with him about it. Don’t tell him you think he’s a liar though. Just explain to him that people like to be the center of attention too every now and then but they can’t be that when he’s always putdoing them. A knowing glance his way when he starts down this path will usually be a hint that he needs to let other people talk for awhile. Okay, Zoe I’m done now. bye
:wink:

I’m reading along and thinking “Wow…it’s Professor Gilderoy Lockhart!”
I read too much Harry Potter.

You come to the right place, Jenaroph.

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t-k, of course I like you! I’m even having a margarita in your honor!

The thing that made me dismiss NPD is that he is willing to give attention to others. Actually, he is kind of nurturing (as long as he gets credit for it!)

There is none of the sexual come-on that is associated with histrionic behavior, but I have thought that that was pretty close.

Actually, he has trouble making lasting friendships. People tire of these whoppers. He has one buddy that has stuck around for years though. And he is married.

Oh, I don’t think he is going to change at all – especially if it is a personality disorder. I just want to understand it and to get some clue on how to handle it when I’m around.

I love him. He’s family. But it would be nice to be able to depend on the information that he provides me about other members of the family and I know that I can’t. I know that I will have to accomodate him. I hate just nodding in agreement as if I believe him, but if I question him, everything falls apart or he gets defensive. If I disagree, things escalate. So I’m in a situation where I feel that I’m cornered into dishonest agreement or muteness.

I’m off to follow libwen’s, iampunha’s and Risha’s links now. Thanks!

iampunha, it will be interesting to read about the distinction you make. Aren’t both Histrionic PD and Munchausen’s Syndrome usually associated with women?

I was going to email a length (really, really long) reply to you, Zoe, but since you do not have your email address listed, I can’t:) I will say that the literature in my first post in this thread did not indicate to me that Munchausen’s was dominated by women. My guess is that your uncle has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. E me at sadpunk@gmail.com and I’ll be happy to lay out for you my non-professional opinion.

That kinda refutes the sincerity of his empathy.
Also, the criteria in diagnosing NPD isn’t a complete checklist that needs to be fullfilled. He may not meet every described trait but he doesn’t have to either. Unless you can find a simpler and more precise diagnosis, Occums razor applies. It’s been a few years since I got my Masters at UT in Biological Psych… and I never went into practice but it’s probably the best choice based on what you’ve said thus far.
Is he just a braggart? Well of course he is. That’s the whole point. His bullshit has taken over his personality. It is obvious to everyone that knows him to the point that people avoid him. He has ONE good buddy that feeds his ego and is more than likely getting something of his own in return. Could be any number of things.
He probably won’t ever change. especially if everyone avoids the issue and nobody ever sincerely confronts him about it. He enjoys the illusion of grandeur and has his own little cult following to feed his ego.
I’ve got someone in my life a lot like that. I just have to check him every now and then. I’ll tell him a really big whopper and then ask to beat it. He finally realized that sometimes he needs to just shut up and listen sometimes. People like to be heard and if YOU are doing all of the talking they resent it. He understood that.
Still gotta check him from time to time however. Find some covert way for him to get ahold of a brief summary describing NPD if you really would rather not confromt him. He might actually realize he’s got a problem but doesn’t know how to deal with it. It is part of his personality and that’s a tough cure.
good luck t/k

There is a name for people with that sort of disorder.

Down here, we call 'em WANKERS.

:smiley:

Good question, Zoe!

I asked essentially the exact same question in General Questions not too long ago, but for some reason I can’t find the thread with the search function.

Anyway, bibliophage replied that this behavior was referred to as ‘overclaiming’, and he provided the following link:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1175/is_1_36/ai_100736560

I found it.