A question about Pit thread-starting etiquette

jayjay tells me that it is rude to respond to an original post in a negative way within the original PIT thread. He says everyone here knows the polite thing to do is to start a whole new Pit thread for your on-topic, about-the-original-post flaming of the first Pit thread. He doesn’t think the same is true for off-topic flaming of people you think are being rude, however.

Every time I see someone do as he says should be done, they get slammed for cluttering the board with unnecessary threads, and told they should have handled it in the original thread. Am I wrong about this, or is it actually expected that only agreeable posts are to happen in Pit threads, and anything in dissent should be made into a whole new thread on the same subject?

I can’t force you all to stay on topic, but there’s no link because this is about the question of when and where to politely voice one’s opinion about OPs in the Pit.

A substantial number of Pit threads wind up “turning against” the OP.
In fact, it is almost a given that a poorly presented Pit thread, or a Pit thred in which the OP takes an unpopular stand, will result in an internal, (to that thread), Pitting of the Original Poster.

Unless I have misunderstood something in this OP, I really do not understand the opinion attributed to jayjay, here.

That’s not what jayjay said. He said this:

“It’s kind of rude to threadshit like that” is not invoking a SDMB rule; jayjay was expressing an opinion, one I read as, “Ensign was being kind of a cunt in this instance.” You have now missed the point in two separate threads. Nicely done.

He said no such thing, you lying sack of shit. Or maybe you just can’t read. Which is it?

That is not the only post he made on the subject. He made it very clear that he thinks it was rude of me not to start a new Pit thread.

He clearly said that it was NOT OKAY to flame the OP on the topic of the post within the thread unless the OP was inflammatory enough in his personal view. Please, show me how the above sentence can be twisted to mean he didn’t think it wasn’t rude to flame within the thread. His whole point in attacking me was that it was rude to flame within the thread. That is the question I want answered, and I will ignore any off-topic posts in this thread from here on out.

In his opinion! He was not invoking a rule, he was telling you you were being a jerk off. Why is this so difficult?

Well, Ensign, what was the purpose of your post in that thread?

Did you have a point to make about people whining about not having a perfect Xmas when some people have nothing at all? If so, then you really should start a new thread so we can talk about that.

If your purpose was to shit on **HD **for whining that his Xmas sucked a wee, then you are welcome to comment in his thread. With that choice comes that possibility that the rest of us won’t jump on your bandwagon and may in fact say: Hey, you’re being a douche by doing a drive-by threadshit.

Sometimes the Pit will turn on the OP. This time it appear that the majority of the Board agrees that what happened to **HD **sucked and we don’t think he should be castigated for whining when in fact it does suck to have an expensive chunk of meat ruined by someone’s dog.

IMO, you were being a dick this time. And I frequently like your posts, even though you can be an ass, so don’t think I’m just taking this chance to shit on you.

Why is it so difficult for you to read my post? I never said anything about whether it is a rule. In that thread, I apologized to jayjay for mistakenly thinking it was a rule already. The title says ETIQUETTE and the OP is VERY CLEARLY about whether it is RUDE, not whether it is against the rules.

At least have the stones to post the whole quote:

Bolding added.

This is rather a more specific complaint than you outline in your OP.

Are you asking me? You were RUDE! Not against the rules but RUDE as fuck. Do you get it yet?

Look, the question IS NOT WHETHER YOU THINK MY OPINION IS RIGHT OR WRONG. It is whether it is rude to post an opinion in dissent of the majority in the Pit regardless of what that opinion was or what the OP was about provided the opinion was ABOUT THE OP. You can think I’m a dick for my opinion all you want, but what I want to know is if it is actually accepted as rude regardless of the objective dickishness of the on-topic post.

So you think it is rude to post on-topic dissent within a Pit thread, and that I should have started a whole new thread and made an even bigger deal of it. Okay, I’ll mark your vote down. Unless you were answering some other question entirely?

YES!!! It is RUDE to threadshit. What you did was threadshit. The rest of the thread was about how it sucks to have your ham stolen (unless you don’t like ham in which case it is a blessing). The thread was not about how it sucks to only have a few items on Xmas. I guess your post could, if I squint at it, have been an attempt to steer the conversation another way. But it looks more like threadshitting to me.

Nobody is saying it’s rude in general, you disingenuous shitweasel. They’re saying it’s rude in this case and others like it. Fuck me, but you’re as willfully obtuse as brazil84.

Okay, if that is what you believe, then you do think the only polite way under Pit rules to express my view was to start my own Pit thread, as jayjay said. That’s all I wanted to know, thank you. Tom disagrees, so it’s one to one. Hopefully some more posters will be capable of controlling their urge to shit on and hijack this thread too and be able to answer the actual question.

The gratuitous personal insults still being flung my way are pretty funny from people simultaneously complaining about just-cuz use of the Pit’s laxness in such areas, though.

Re-read Tom’s post. That’s not what he said.

Why are you mentioning Pit rules again when everyone, including YOU, has already agreed that what you did wasn’t against the rules? FFS, you just did so in post #8 of your own goddamned thread! Are you brain damaged? Really, it’s a serious question.

Unless you’re suggesting that by this:

he meant to suggest that it’s only acceptable if the stand is generally unpopular, then I suppose I need him to clarify. Otherwise I don’t see where I misunderstood him – he seems to be saying it is normal practice to respond to an OP in dissent within the original thread.

Pit mores, I should have said. I just typed too quickly, QED, it’s obvious from context that I’m still talking about etiquette. Is it necessary to continue derailing this thread over every little twitch I make that you object to?

When you “threadshit”, that’s a rule. When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that’s a more.