A question about pregnancy, miscarriage, and bleeding

If one was to have a miscarriage of twins at 7 months pregnant, would her bleeding after the miscarriage be done 3 days later? How long does bleeding after a miscarriage tend to last? I Have googled and I am coming up with several different answers.

At 7 months, what would the hospital do with the babies? The person who is talking to me about this said the Hospital cremated them- this doesn’t sound right to me, but I know nothing about this type of thing either.

How long will a doctor let you remain pregnant? The person who was talking said she just would not go into labor and was like on her 13 or 14th month of preganancy. She was scheduled for a c section, but her son died(she said) so she canceled it. She was or is or whatever pregnant with quads this time.( We are talking about two different sets of pregnancys here)

On an ultrasound can you see anything in the womb at 4 weeks along? Do they take ultrasound pictures that quick? I ask this because she says she has some, but when i went with my sister to the hospital, they had problems seeing things at almost two months along.

I am trying to read more about this topic- as what this woman is telling doesn ot ring true at all, but you also learn something new everyday. So someone please help me fight my ignorance.

Ok, obviously I need to say that asking for medical advice or information on a message board is not the best way to go.

Having said that, extreme TMI could follow, so sensitive people should maybe not read on-

If a fetus is miscarried, the parents decide what to do. Hospitals should comply with their wishes. Often with stillborn babies or late miscarriages, the parents spend time with the babies before the decision is made to bury them, cremate them, or whatever, according to the couple’s beliefs and wishes.

Bleeding after a miscarriage varies from pregnancy to pregnancy, so you will get no definitive answer.

My first ultrasound (vaginal) was in the early weeks, but it was just to see how many hearts were beating, to check for multiples. I can’t remember if there were pictures.

My OB/GYN would never allow a patient to go much beyond 40 weeks. It is dangerous for both mother and baby. What your friend described sounds like exageration or a UL to me, but I suppose it could happen. I sure as hell don’t buy what sounds like the patient making the medical decisions (my baby’s dead, go ahead and cancel my surgery, please).

Ask 50 different moms about pregnancy and you will hear 50 personal stories. If you want averages, check out any pregnancy website.

I am asking here because I have been reading about it and not finding information that is easy to understand- I don’t know anyone else who knows about this kind of thing- so I thought I would ask here, didn’t realize it was a bad idea to ask here.

let me clarify- she said the hospital took them and cremated them because they were born dead- I didn’t know they did this sort of thing.

I guess I should be more specific, an older child, not one of the babies, passed away and thats why she said she canceled the c section, But byt today, as of a few minutes ago, she is now 5 months pregnant with one baby- so I give up- She was just 15 months pregnant with quads now she is 5 months pregnant with one. I think I am off to watch jerry springer now.

Around here, in the Land of Gunshy Obstetricians, the longest overdue you will go is a week. This is maybe to account for Mom not knowing exactly when she conceived sometimes. Anything over that and Junior is coming out whether he/she is ready or not.

Now back in 1977, the morons in charge of my mother let her go nearly 4 weeks overdue, thus damn near killing us both. This probably doesn’t happen very often anymore.

Inductions and c-sections are getting more and more common. Sad to say but a lot of doctors would rather the babies be born when it’s convenient for them, so instead of letting nature take its course they’ll either pump Mom full of pitocin or just go ahead and do surgery.

I know this isn’t always the case. Very prevalent here, though. YMMV.

As you’ve probably figured out by now, every single one of the stories this person has told you is somewhere between highly suspicious and utterly freakin’ impossible. You should know that there are people on the 'net who spin fantastic stories of dramatic medical events - pregnancy is pretty popular because it’s easy for a pregnant woman to get sympathy. They’re the bane of online preggo support groups; everyone will be pulling for one woman who’s having a horrible time of it, and on top of it all may have a lousy home life, financial troubles, etc. etc. Then suddenly she’s exposed as a hoax, and the whole group is hurt and gets suspicious of every unusual thing someone says. Ugly, ugly, ugly. Usually all these people want is attention, but some have scammed people out of money with these stories, for instance by asking for money to help with funeral expenses.

Your instincts were right on. This woman (if you’re actually talking to a woman…) is a scammer, and a pretty clumsy on at that.

Sounds like an case of online Munchausen - making herself sound sick for sympathy.

I was a mod breifly for a pregnancy forum where one mom had lost her first child to genetic (?) heart defect about a month before due date. She would go on major flame fests every time someone complained about pregnancy, ‘they’d best be happy they even have a healthy baby!’ As the mod, I had to counsel her to calm down, be open, etc. She said she was far too wounded to do that, and she simply wasn’t that good a person to forgive when people took their babies less than 100% seriously. She panicked when her baby’s death anniversary and former due date went by. She posted heavily on the support-for-losses forum (actually fairly well). She eventually had a healthy baby girl. About a year later, someone noticed she was participating on another site, where she was laughing about having snookered the original forum into believing she had suffered a pregnancy loss, and how many people posted in support of her ‘loss’ etc., and apparently being wicked nasty about how stupid they all were. Needless to say, she was banned. But damage done, too. Almost two years of browbeating people with her baby’s death, including links to information about the defect on a support site, etc. She was Gooooood. But I guess she was telling the truth when she said ‘she wasn’t that good a person’…

Sigh.

In my readings on classical obstetrics, there are cases where women retain the baby and/or placenta for weeks or months beyond term. They usually die of sepsis or gangrene, though. And it wasn’t unsual for women to be permitted to go a month or more past 40 weeks, even in my mom’s era (in part because they weren’t all that sure when the baby was concieved, and had no way to check dates by ultrasound). But babies started dying more and more as they went past the 42-week point, or were born with fetal asphyxia brain damage because the placenta was failing. Hence the current line at 42 weeks (and often shorter than that, depending on caregiver protocol).

This is TMI…

Concerning miscarriages… If the miscarriage occurs early in the pregnancy, most hospitals will incinerate the fetus with the other biohazardous waste. The reasoning is that it is too small to really be seen and will be too upsetting for the mother if the fetus isn’t properly formed. If the fetus is “significant”, over 3 months or so, the parents are consulted about arrangements. My sister miscarried around 3 months and never saw the remains. I have a friend that miscarried twins at 6 months. She was given the option of not having the ashes returned to her, so that she wouldn’t be upset or have to remember. She chose cremation and to recieve the ashes.

Yeah this is a real live woman unless she is a very good crossdresser, which could also be true at the rate we are going here. Not your random net psycho, just your random in real life psycho

Quadruplet elephants, perhaps.

Human bodies do not gestate that long. Unless - by some amazingly vivid stretch of the imagination - she miscarried a set of quads at eight months, and immediately conceived another set of quads, and either miscarried the second set or gave birth to them at seven months.

I work in a women’s specialty hospital and have lots of OB and fertility experience. Here is my opinion.

Bleeding following pregnancy is variable. C-S patients tend to bleed less and vag deliveries tend to bleed more, but I don’t know anyone and/or have not had any experiences that involved only three days of bleeding following a delivery. I guess it could happen…

At 7 months of pregnancy, the hospital where I work would ask the mother what she wanted done with the body. There are lots of things that could be done and we would try very hard to fulfill the parents wishes. I suppose in some places the don’t do this…

Where I work, most Docs won’t let a woman go past 41 weeks of pregnancy. We do occasionally get someone who is 42 weeks, though. I guess it could happen…

You cannot see much at 4 weeks of pregnancy by ultrasound- perhaps a fetal pole or some small sac shaped object. Most early US are done at 6 weeks.

There are some unusual things that can happen during pregnancy, though- a vanishing twin in early pregnancy or a fetal demise with a living fetus (or more than one) for example.
You are right, however, to be skeptical. When things don’t make sense, you are correct to be cautious. I’ve had experiences like Hedra’s and it just doesn’t pay to get too involved with internet people sometimes.

Is there somewhere up there where I said she was from the net? This is a real live woman. for what its worth even when she was “preg with the quads” she never looked any different than she had when she wasn’t pregnant at all, no matter what month the pregnancy was. I just think she is a little strange now.

Sorry. I assumed this was on the 'net because I’ve seen it happen on the 'net… plus, if you saw her in real life when she claimed to be however many months pregnant with quadruplets, I’d figure you’d see she was lying. I don’t think a quadruplet pregnancy has ever gone to term, and if it did I don’t see how the poor mom would be able to get out of bed in the morning…

Incidentally, there’s some variation in how long midwives or doctors will wait for a birth to start before inducing. My older son was born at 42 weeks, 1 day according to the ultrasound dating. But I was being closely monitored towards the end and would have been induced the same day if things hadn’t started moving on their own.

My stepdaughter was born nearly 5 weeks after her original due date back in 1985… the doc insisted that Mr. Kitty’s ex-wife was incorrect in her dates and refused to induce her. They finally went ahead with the induction when they realised that stepdaughter was starting to atrophy. And for some completely unknown reason she let this moron deliver my stepson two years later. :rolleyes:

Stepdaughter is now pregnant, and had her first ultrasound at 5 weeks… she showed us pictures, but it didn’t look like anything but a tiny blob (much more so than normal US pics). But she was having some spotting, so they did an US-with-pics earlier than normal; it’s my understanding that prior to about 3 months USs are done to locate the heartbeat, not to “see” the baby.

As for the cremation question- a close friend of mine lost her baby back in February. They allowed her and her husband to spend time with the body after it had been cleaned and dressed, and then asked them what they would like to do with the remains. At the time I worked for the same hospital, and the nurses did tell me it was hospital policy to follow the parents’ wishes after approximately 6 months gestation. Before that the remains are cremated with the medical waste.

Your “friend” is… umm… insane. And I mean that in the nicest possible way. :slight_smile:

God, is her name Dawn by chance?

I too immediately thought “online” because we had a woman like this on my April-99 due-date pregnancy list.

Seems like it would be slightly harder to lie in person, but she does sound like a genuine nutjob.

Nope its Lisa, thanks for all your replies. now she is claiming she has 3d pics of the baby, that she is 5 months pregnant with, 5 bucks says she printed them off the net

I’ve had 3 pregnancies (2 live births and one miscarriage) so I have just the tiniest bit of experience with pregnancy/miscarriage/bleeding. In 1995 I miscarried, then immediately got pregnant with my daughter, so my conception date for her was extremely accurate. They did ultrasounds and quantitative hCG tests to determine that she was a second pregnancy and not a carryover from the miscarriage. When I was at 42 weeks they refused to induce labor because it “wasn’t necessary.” Finally, when her heartbeat started to falter, and she started losing weight in the womb at ~45 weeks they induced labor. With my son, I was induced at 42-43 weeks. They learned from the first time, I guess :slight_smile:

My point being, I went 5 weeks overdue, and by that point, the baby and I were both in distress and nearly died. Unless she was carrying the seed of SuperMan, babies carried that long would be in trouble. With both of my pregnancies they did ultrasounds at 4-5 weeks along, but the obstetrician showed me the monitor and other than a dark spot which she identified as some organ, there was nothing to take a picture OF. As for bleeding, both of my deliveries I bled for about 4 weeks. With my miscarriage I bled for about 2 weeks, and it was a lot earlier. I was told that later term miscarriages (2nd or 3rd trimester) usually bleed longer. Others have already said that they do cremate miscarried infants, but I know that you can do burials for them as well. My mother-in-law miscarried one of her pregnancies at 7 months and my in-laws named the child and had her buried in a cemetary.

True, multiple births usually don’t go a full 40 weeks. Anywhere from 32 weeks on is standard, IIRC.