No, because everybody knows about the setback rule.
What makes you think your fences are built along the right line?
Seriously, building a fence along the wrong route happens all the time here. I can’t believe that all property lines and surveyors and fence builders in an entire country are so meticulous and accurate that they never get it wrong even by six inches.
Also, in most places the original survey lines were done two hundred or more years ago. Not only were surveys less accurate then, they also had a tendency to mark off distances from a convenient creek or oak tree that may no longer be there. That’s makes it almost impossible for the divisions within divisions within divisions to all be accurate to the inch everywhere.
I simply can’t believe this isn’t true for Australia. Are you sure you aren’t just using your personal experience as a substitute for the realities of a very large country?
The defendants’ building leans across the property line by 7 3/8 inches.
Defendants blame plaintiff. They claim that the plaintiff graded her property with dirt, which she retained using the defendants’ fence, and which cause the defendants’ property to buckle over onto her property.
The court found that the defendants’ building does lean onto plaintiff’s.
The court also found that the defendants’ building had moved into that position, the cause was not known, but the defendants did not cause the overhang.
The court found that the foundation of the defendants’ building was entirely on their own property, and that the overhang did not interfere with any use that the plaintiff proposed for the property.
The plaintiff proved to the court that she had sold the property to a third party who wanted to realign the building on the plaintiff’s property so that the building on the plaintiff’s property was within the plaintiff’s property lines.
Courts have discretion when it comes to granting injunctions.
The defendants’ building overhangs the a corner of the plaintiff’s property by less than a foot.
The overhang existed for a long time and the plaintiff may have caused it.
The defendants claim that the court should not have granted an injunction because they did nothing at all. The cases allow an injunction where the defendant did something, even if it wasn’t negligent to do so, to cause the encroachment, but not where the defendant did nothing at all–that’s the defendant’s argument anyway.
(8) The proper rules for the application of this doctrine were recently set forth by this court [Division One], after an exhaustive review of the relevant authorities in Christensen v. Tucker, 114 Cal.App.2d 554, at pages 562-563 [250 P.2d 660] as follows:
Courts have discretion in these cases. But they should start with the assumption that the defendant is a wrongdoer and the plaintiff’s property rights have been violated. To deny an injunction the court should consider:
It wasn’t the defendant’s fault; the court should also consider whether the plaintiff caused the problem;
Irreparable harm to the plaintiff beats costs imposed on the defendant by the injunction
Hardship on the defendant, generally, counts less than hardship on the plaintiff.
The defendant did nothing wrong, but the plaintiff will suffer irreparable harm if no injunction is granted because the defendant’s building needs to be straightened.
The costs to the parties of granting or denying the injunction are roughly equal.
Denying an injunction where it is warranted is like a taking. The lower court got it right by granting the injunction.
If the plaintiff thinks she’s getting money too, she’s nuts.
Where, in NY? What happens when the neighbors want a fence, too? Is there a 12" gap between fences? An intentional setback makes no common sense. We wouldn’t stand for it here in the heartland!
Only really accurate in metes and bounds states, like NY. But even newer plats – say this century – would be expected to be accurate relative to each other. It’s not like most subdivisions date back 200 years.
Actually, I wonder if there are any precedents describing the protocol for the subdivisions when the original survey of the whole plot is found to be defective. Again, probably only an issue where the PLSS isn’t used.
I think whether a fence goes on the property line, or set back a short distance, is a regional thing, probably mostly dependent on lot size. When I lived in California, the lots and backyards were small, and the fences were all on the line, and were privacy fences. Where I am now, we don’t have fences by default, but some people have put them in.
I meant to refer only to large structures like houses, buildings, and garages. Fences should be erected along the boundary line, although that can lead to problems if neighbors don’t agree where that line is, which is very frequently.
Most land in the country, certainly everything as far west as the Louisiana Purchase, was sectioned 200 years ago. I highly recommend Measuring America: How an Untamed Wilderness Shaped the United States and Fulfilled the Promise of Democracy, by Andro Linklater as a wonderful read and an excellent history. He details the incredible achievement and the incredible travails of laying out accurate boundaries in what was still proverbial untracked wilderness, and talks about all the mistakes, compromises, inaccuracies, failures, unprofessionalism, and looseness that went into marking the sections, and the plats thereof. When those are not accurate - and some were far off - nothing based on them can be fully accurate.
I think it’s called the court system. Land law suits are noted for their endlessness, pickiness, and feuds that make the Hatfields and McCoys look like BFFs.