A question to C K Dexter Haven on the art of the insult in GD

The BBQ Pit
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[QUOTE=magellan01]
Are you really this starved for attention? This is your sixth post in this thread. Your previous five merited zero—that’s right, 0—responses. No defense from me, not even a pat on the back form any of the usual suspects. And then you post this “Hey, look at me. I posted something profoundly observant and witty. Let me just direct you to it because you must have missed it somehow, and you must see it becuase it’s so, well, amazingly super-great!” Are you really that lonely and insecure? Do you think that everyone, by some strange cosmic-scale coincidence, somehow missed this super-duper post—along with your other eqaully noteworthy contributions?

Wow. The irony of your last post aside (I’ll let you struggle through it), just wow. How sad.

And poor Kayla. Don’t you think she might be better off with a foster poster?
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That post wasn’t even directed to you. If you act like a possessive tyrant with your thread and backhand posters you feel aren’t up to its standards, people are going to think you’re a jerk.

Jerk.

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]
Yeah, you don’t care for being attacked. But what if–just as a hypothetical, mind you–the attacks against you are justified? Could that ever happen?
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I’m sure that in the mind of some it is completely justified. But that doesn,t make it justified in the absolute sense. Which brings us back to universality, and what “everyone” thinks. And I’ll have to go with the arena where I have infinitley more feedback: the real world.

[QUOTE=Lemur866]
See, you may be doing the defending, but you’re an asshole defending yourself against the attack of people calling you an asshole, and you’re using asshole tactics to do so.
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You’re good at building the insults into your seemingly reasoned analysis. But has it dawned on you that it makes your analysis appear less reasonded, never mind, objective? And what, specifically, do you have a problem with? And why?

[QUOTE=Lemur866]
For example, Kaylasdad99 isn’t an asshole, but he’s been called an asshole. But take a look at his response.
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I don’t know anything about Kaylasdad99 other than his posts in this thread. I consider them assholish. I ignored him, then I finally told him what I thought of him and his posts. Seems rather routine, especially in the Pit.

[QUOTE=Lemur866]
See, what you’re doing is what Freud called “projection”, one of the few psychological concepts of his that actually had merit. You know what projection is, right?
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:rolleyes: Now you see, you may or may not be a jerk. I’d lean to “not”, but in your oh-so-reasonable offerings you throw in little jerkish stuff like this. And that’s jerkish. Which type of discussion would you prefer to have? My default is the non-jerkish.

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[QUOTE=ThePCapeman]
That post wasn’t even directed to you. If you act like a possessive tyrant with your thread and backhand posters you feel aren’t up to its standards, people are going to think you’re a jerk.

Jerk.
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Let’s see, there must be a response here that’s perfect, just perfect. Hmmm. Oh, I know:

That post wasn’t even directed to you. If you act like a hall monitor with the SDMB and insult posters you feel aren’t up to your standards, people are going to think you’re a jerk.

Jerk.

Regarding the point of your estimation of things, just who do you think it was directed at? Hint: look at the quote box he included in his post.

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[QUOTE=magellan01]
Let’s see, there must be a response here that’s perfect, just perfect. Hmmm. Oh, I know:

That post wasn’t even directed to you. If you act like a hall monitor with the SDMB and insult posters you feel aren’t up to your standards, people are going to think you’re a jerk.

Jerk.

Regarding the point of your estimation of things, just who do you think it was directed at? Hint: look at the quote box he included in his post.
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Glad you agree.

Here’s a hint for you: directed to vs. directed at

You have the power to make this stop at any time. But I doubt you will. You seem to be enjoying the attention.

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[QUOTE=ThePCapeman]
Glad you agree.

Here’s a hint for you: directed to vs. directed at

You have the power to make this stop at any time.
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:eek: YOU CAN’T POSSIBLY MEAN THAT! He can’t end it until he hits “Submit” on the last post in the thread.

And the meanies won’t let him.

Well I don’t really need to be the “winner”, so I won’t post again to the thread. I reserve the right to read it until it ceases to amuse me, though.

Have fun with the rest of it.

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Well, Magellan01, I guess I was wrong. The problem really is all the rest of us. Please, continue your heroic fight against people who attack you. You truly are a martyr to the cause.

You win! Yay, you!

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]
Well, Magellan01, I guess I was wrong. The problem really is all the rest of us. Please, continue your heroic fight against people who attack you. You truly are a martyr to the cause.

You win! Yay, you!
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My Israel Doctrine has been vindicated!!!

I am disappointed that you attempted what I took to be a serious discussion then decided to bow out when I didn’t see things your way, while ignoring many of my points. Not really much of a “discussion” that way is it. But no matter. Another time.

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Well, this inanity has gone on long enough. But before I request this be closed, let’s recap.

I opened a thread in GD asking a Mod for clarifications on GD rules. I provided a list of potential GD viloations, asked for rulings on those and then a ruling on what I thought was a violation in GD. Specifically, that by tomndebb.

Here is what has transpired:

  1. An accustion of me being insulted in GD by a Mod.

  2. Questions adressed to an Administrator seekiing rule clarifications.

  3. A Mod moving my thread it here against my wishes as expressed in the OP.

  4. An opinion as to the alleged violation (posted in the original thread) by an Administrator.

  5. When clarification was asked of the Administrator, Administrator explains he really isn;yt the best person to answer, as he is not rthe best qualified. He says that he would like TubaDiva to get back and handle it and to passs it on to a Mod.

  6. The Mod who moved it finally opines, but in a vague manner. But even then, tends to agree with my position (by offering that most of the examples wold be violations or merit a warning) but doesn’t weigh in on the specific alleged insult. When pressed, he refuses to answer.

  7. Four posters attempt to answer the question. (Countless others attacked, sniped, and other such nonsense.) Three of hotse who did answer (Revenant Threshold, Shodan, and Cheesesteak), seem to agree that tomndebb’s statement was, in fact, an insult. Elucidator considers it a grey area and Im not completely sure where he comes out.

8)tomndebb admits that he sees how what he wrote might be construed as a personal insult. He says that was not his intent. He admits he ignored my claim.

  1. I point out to him that given what he just offered, some people would think it incumbent upon them to apologize. No further respose from tomndebb.

So, we have:
tomndebb did insult me: 3
tomndebb did not insult me: 1 (with an admission that he felt unqualified to rule)
MEBuckner and elucidator I am unsure about.

Not really a conclusive set of results given the small number of those involved, but I am encouraged.

But, as it seems that TubaDiva or some other higher-up will not be weighing in to clarify the rules and, if necessary admonish a Moderator, I request that this thread be closed.

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Yippee skippy.