I found a video showing Sam on trial:
I assume that’s Sam, I know that took place in Canada.
There are literally hundreds of cases where people have caught you lying.
Y’all will be glad to know that Sam’s son violating the rules of this board was a Russian disinformation plot by Yakoff Smirnov.
In Soviet Straight Dope, ignorance fights you!
You mean disprove, no?
And no, @Euphonious_Polemic showed how pathetic you are with the gaslighting too.
And the Gish Gallop circles right back around! I was wondering how long it would be
You laugh, but it was torture trying to date in high school in Canada. Over and over again I’d ask a girl out and she’d be like, “Sorry, I know it seems like I’m single, but I actually have a closeted American boyfriend. We met at the gun show a couple of summers ago. I don’t get to see him very often, but we’re so in love that we’re trying to make it work”.
Again, it is kind of fascinating to watch unfold. Sam has offered three different alternative “here’s how I met my wife” scenarios. The three are irreconcilable. An uninitiated poster might suppose he’d not return out of embarrassment. Or that he’d admit his fabrications and say he’d do better. Or something that acknowledges three contradictory stories regarding a life event most of us would find memorable.
Nope, none of that. Instead we’re informed that this is among the weakest accusations yet, a new low for the board. It all dovetails, really—well, except for the Warren Zevon bit, but who can remember such a trivial detail regarding meeting the woman you’d marry?
Fascinating. /Spock
If Walter Bishop, or What Exit, or Manda Jo, or Babale, or The Other Waldo Pepper, or damn near anyone else on the board made this claim, I’d be inclined to believe them. Even people I disagree with–even people that I think are basically sociopaths who shouldn’t be let out in public–get the benefit of the doubt, because I haven’t seen them make false claim after false claim after false claim.
You? Well, of course I think you’re lying here. What, in my experience with your posts, would lead me to suspect differently?
You could change that. You could take more care to write only the truth. But unless and until you make that change, of course your stories about your wife will be dismissed as fantasy.
I wouldn’t, because that lame attempt to reconcile three completely different and contradictory stories, at least two of which are lies, was the biggest pile of horseshit I’ve seen in a long time. I wouldn’t believe it if I had authenticated video of Sam and his wife swearing to it on a stack of bibles.
The one about him meeting his wife when she swooned and fell in love when Sam, a complete stranger, jumped up to defend her against a gang of sports hooligans was the most laughable story of all.
The board has a search function, it took literally seconds to find those posts. They can all be found with one search. The funny thing was that I found them not because I was going for a gotcha, but because I was doing my due diligence before posting something.
With all the talk of bullying in these two threads (this one and the HBDC thread), I wanted to see if you or HBDC had taken a stance WRT bullying in an older thread about the subject. In any case, searching for that managed to pick up the baseball game version.
As for the due diligence, I wanted to make sure there wasn’t a divorce/remarried part that would have explained the lack of consistency between the two stories, but instead I found the Warren Zevon version.
I had no intention of posting anything when I found the first two, but finding a third version, that was not only different, but didn’t even mention any of the elements from the other two convinced me that you’re making stuff up.
Also, this is a fourth version:
Which is it? We’re you talking to her, online, about Warren Zevon or did she overhear you talking to your friends about Warren Zevon?
It has to be this:
I was chatting with a bunch of friends one day, and mentioned Zevon. My future wife was in earshot, and she perked up and said, “You like Warren Zevon??”
or this:
I met my wife online the first time. We chatted about Warren Zevon and a few other things… I subsequently went to a baseball game…
No–I mean, if another poster had three weird stories and reconciled them, I would absolutely give them the benefit of the doubt, because who the hell would lie about something like that? I might not completely understand the reconciliation, but I’d figure the fault was with me.
Weird stories? You’re the ones adding all the shit about swooning, etc. Typical. The story is, I met my wife online, we physically met for the first time at a baseball game where she was being harassed. We got engaged a few weeks later, got married six months after we met in person. This is not some wild, weird story.
I asked my wife about the discrepancies, and she figures that I just forgot about one of our group get togethers where we chatted about stuff. Could be. We met with those friends many times afterwards, so maybe there was a meeting I forgot right around the time we met. And that’s it for the ‘weirdness’.
The rest is you guys making a big deal out of nothing and ‘embellishing’ with claims that she swooned after me, etc. Should I call someone a liar for that if they can’t produce a claim by me that my wife ‘swooned’ after me when I defended her from the bad bullies?
Am I tho? Am I?
This is pretty funny, dude. When you’re caught prevaricating, admit it. The fact that you don’t is why you have the reputation you do.
There’s a saying that Judge Judy used all the time that might come in handy for you to remember Sammy. You don’t need a good memory if you’re telling the truth.
Why? Because you don’t have to keep track of all of your lies and which ones you’ve told to who.
Yeah, I don’t have that problem. i might have the occasional problem with remember the exact specifics of events that happened 35 yers ago on occasion.
Like everyone else.
But when you explained it the first time, it wasn’t 35 years ago, it was 9 years earlier, the second story, was just a few years after that.
Part of the reason I wasn’t going to say anything when I found the 1999 story is because it had been so long and people do misremember things, but then you gave an entirely different version in 2003.
Whatever, dude. The basics of the story are the same. Met my wife online, first physically met at a baseball game where she was being harassed, got engaged shortly thereafter.
That you would spend so much time trying to pick apart a detail in my life story like that shows just how pathetic this is all getting.
None of what you are saying is remotely believable. That’s why no one believes it. Even apart from the deep trench of credibility you’re starting from.