A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors

Cite please.

It was all the lies that showed they were a bunch of liars. All the lies that have been cited over and over again. Lies make the liars. I didn’t make them lie (and I didn’t make you repeat their lies) – that’s the choice of the liars.

Cite for this, please (assuming it’s not another lie).

I was just going for those in the first 15 years. Also, I find it funny that his first pit (that I saw, I just searched titles for his name) was by Dio. How the hell do you get pitted by Dio?

You said federal cases.

Anyway, yes, we do get to observe that the House Committee is buffoonery pure and simple. It’s an objective reality, and I don’t even think the Republicans on the committee would say otherwise if you bought them a beer.

Oh yeah, the thread where people just kept taking inappropriate shots at me until the mod had to warn them. I seem to recall that I did admit that, but not in that thread - probably the pit thread where I kept getting hassled about it.

In any event, that’s a good example of a comment that I made in the hope of a reasonable debate that turned into a giant pitting that was way over the top.

Also, the title of the pit thread about that itself was a lie that no one ever apologized for, something like “Sam Stone Believes Trump Tweets” despite the fact that I have repeatedly said that I think Trump is a liar, but in that one case it seemed so easily checkable that he wouldn’t do it. I was wrong about that, but ever since I have been smeared as a Trump lover and how I uncritically believe everything he says. Those are bigger lies than anything I’ve been accused of on this board.

I already did, in this thread. I’m not doing it again.

You are free to assume what you want about them. What you aren’t free to do is call someone a liar when the plain facts they stated are true, but you don’t like them.

No you didn’t! Another lie. And so easy to check!

Liar.

It really is easy to check. I just did. The first post 19 hours ago referenced the gun case and unspecified information from the laptop entered into evidence. The second was the House Oversight Committee, along with a sample document that references the laptop evidence.

You are lying.

There has been no trial, and therefore nothing has been “entered into evidence.”

It occurs to me that @Sam_Stone is right. He is attacked on this board because of his politics, but not for the reason he imagines. The right has become completely detached from reality, so they have no choice but to lie, and they (Sam in this case) are getting called out on the really obvious lies. The only thing that is somewhat remarkable is that somebody possibly as (somewhat) intelligent as Sam could keep falling for the lies. We know he isn’t a complete moron from the non-political threads.

And that’s why I started this read in the first place. It is remarkable to me that Sam can be shown to be factually wrong time and time and time again, and yet he keeps returning to the poisoned information sources that lied to him the first time.

Oh well. Whatever.

Bolding mine. If I got the terminology wrong, what would you call it?

What do you think is my most obvious ‘lie’?

I think we already covered this one Sammy. The fact that you use the word lie in ‘quotes’ pretty much demonstrates your most obvious lie. Sorry, ‘lie’.

You said “multiple federal cases”. Did you really mean one entirely baseless and dishonest political witch-hunt by the GOP House and one federal gun case that has yet to go to trial and only very vaguely mentioned data on the laptop (which has been otherwise referenced as “duplicative” of other evidence already obtained)? If that’s what you mean, then I’ll retract the accusation of a lie in this specific case.

It could be called “evidence,” but not “entered into evidence,” which happens at trial. This is like evidence police collect at a crime scene. I’d just say “documents.”

Something smells fishy about your quote, as it simply isn’t feasible to use 1.2 million documents in a relatively minor criminal trial. And it wouldn’t be necessary. If you can’t prove your case with 100,000 pages of documents, you don’t have a case.

How about these lies, @Sam_Stone:

We really have ladies and gentlemen of leisure on this message board! Another 68 posts during my workday.

Joey with the damn receipts!

Holy shit, Sammy, you are one tenacious little bitch.

But we do make it worth it for you.