‘You don’t understand, we had to vote for Trump, Hillary is just so evil.’
CMC fnord!
I really don’t need to see a re-enactment of Trump’s evening with Stormy Daniels.
Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States.
This is the guy who was mad that Adam Schiff misquoted him, right?
And “christians” fall over themselves to support this vile, evil piece of shit.
To be fair, Schiff was a lying sack of shit and I don’t blame Trump for being angry at him.
But still, in general fuck Trump.
Schiff made it very clear he was paraphrasing. He didn’t do anything dishonest at all.
Yeah, no, he’s a liar. He claimed to have had no contact with the whistleblower before the complaint was filed, we now know that’s a lie.
Not to mention even Pelosi thought that Schiff was using “the president’s own words” and not making it up, even arguing when Stephanopoulos insisted that Schiff’s words were an “interpretation” and not literal. Either he wasn’t making it clear or she’s an idiot. I give Pelosi more credit than that, I think she thought he was being accurate and defended him before realizing it wasn’t.
Schiff has pulled this before, when he claimed he had a “smoking gun” that proved Trump’s collusion. He completely made that up. He’s like the politician version of a shock jock.
Almost as bad as being the presidential version of Alex Jones?
Oh no. He’s not that bad.
Hillary is zero for 1. Zero for 2 if we count 2008. Yes, she had to fight huge headwinds from the Kremlin-GOP lie machine, but all Ds will suffer that handicap.
I hope you’re not thinking of the popular vote. The baseball team with more runs wins even if the other team has more hits. Call me a linguistic prescriptivist if you must insult me, but, unlike some Dopers, I use the term “win the election” to mean win the election.
FYI Miller, not picking on you or wanting to hijack the thread here, I’m curious about the Ms versus Mrs over here
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=883551
FYI
That’s not necessarily true.
I live in Illinois, which has open primaries. Since it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that the Democratic candidates I favored were going to win the primary, I voted in the Republican primary specifically to vote against Trump. Obviously, it did no good, but I did exert my “slightest bit of control” to try to prevent his presidency.
None of which means she is “unelectable.” Only one person who ran for President in history received more votes than she did and she did so with proven interference from a foreign nation. To say that such a person is “unelectable” is silly and your “evidence” does not support that conclusion.
It’s not just Trump that’s vile; it’s his supporters who knowingly and willingly endorse this vitriol and racism. They knowingly, with eyes wide open, endorse tearing the country apart along racial and cultural lines.
Again, they have a choice to abandon the party, or accept the labels that accurately apply to them. But they can’t be both anymore: they can’t support the highest form of evil and at the same time claim to be voting for the lesser of it.
Trump is bigoted, corrupt, ignorant, inept, callous, a pathological liar and a buffoon lacking even a hint of self-awareness contributing to his being a constant laughing stock. But Trump is not the highest form of evil. Trump has never achieved anything above mere mediocrity, at best.
This guy gets it ^
He achieved the most powerful position on the planet, his political coffers are flush with cash, and appears to be a very strong contender in doing it again, even though your political party has decided to double down on the same political idiocy that loses them elections.
Nah, Doubling on down on Nixon’s abuses of power is the idiocy.
Because two or three years later youve had a chance to see his evilness in governance on display.
So Trump still remains this “Lesser of Two Evils” to you today? And you’d cast your vote for him again if the 2016 election were held tomorrow and you had all the knowledge about him and his behavior you have today?
First off, the popular vote is not analogous to hits. As the system is designed there is not even a federal constitutional requirement for it. Next, being electable is measurable by the popular vote.
Me? I voted for Hillary Clinton; my hands are clean, hey nonny nonny. But if anyone asks me why I voted for Clinton, I’d probably have to say the equivalent of what a Trump voter would: that, back then, I thought the alternative was worse.
And, coming back to the point above: like a Trump voter, I’d have to admit that, no, all these years later I don’t technically know whether things would’ve gone better or worse under Clinton; I’ve only gotten to see what’s happened, I can’t actually be sure which one would’ve been The Lesser Of Two Evils. But that odd minor point doesn’t trouble me; it didn’t stop me from making that choice then, based on what evidence I had, and it doesn’t stop me from still thinking that way now — and, like a Trump voter, I can even phrase it as “hey, if you’d like to put it like this: the reason I voted for this candidate is because the other candidate seemed so much worse.”