I’m kinda glad they didn’t rent a Ryder truck, although most of them weren’t born yet when OKC happened.
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I considered starting a thread in the Pit about this group and what they did, and are planning to do in the future, but decided that this thread is an appropriate place for them, too.
Group claims responsibility for vandalism at Des Moines pregnancy counseling center
Here’s their Wiki page, FWIW.
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Oh shit… Janie’s got a gun.
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What exactly made you think this was the best thread for this?
I imagine they weren’t expecting the cops to be working against them.
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The use of illegal activity to attain their goals and a distrust of government and democratic institutions is common between them. Both are relatively young organizations. But just about everything else is significantly different between the two groups. I would like to see a thread here in P&E to look more closely at Jane’s Revenge.
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You wonder how that expectation is nurtured?
Article: Seattle Cop Tells Q****s They Need to “Work on Respecting” Bigots
“I did not observe or gather evidence that proved this was biased,” wrote an officer, who was not identified, in a report. They added, “I concluded my investigation by explaining to both groups that people are free to make statements and that they need to work on respecting each other statements and views.”
Say it again for the people in the back.
A U-Haul is proverbially lesbian.
These are the fringe extremists already prepared for violence. But the anti-LGBT rhetoric from so much of the right is similar, it’s just getting worse by the day - they are pedophiles, they are grooming your children. It’s horribly reminiscent of the anti-Semitic blood libel canard.
‘Don’t be ridiculous! Jews don’t use the blood of Christian children to make matzo… they use it to power their Jew space lasers.’
Coming soon to a conspiracy site near you!
Google “QAnon adrenochrome”. It’s literally the anti-Semitic blood libel canard.
Unless you’re one o’ them terrifying Moos-lims, and the FBI gets to raid your mosque because they heard you having a somewhat angry conversation on one of the 73 semi-legal listening devices they’ve installed throughout your private spaces. Then no actual attack is required.
The hypocrisy is absolutely breathtaking.
Can someone explain to me how people get taught about Hitlers SA, how they got thrown under the bus and think: “Yes! I want to be a Brownshirt!”
Those guys always, in every example you can find get the short end of the stick, in prison when their cause fails, worse it succeeds.
How can they be such “fans” of that part of history and not know their role is to be the bagman?
This fact should get more airtime: foot soldiers in a totalitarian revolution always get fucked.
The boys that helped Hitler got betrayed at the first opportunity, the guys that helped Stalin didn’t grow old to enjoy the fruits of their works (such as they were), I guess Mao’s friends also didn’t play a lot with their grandchildren (my knowledge of the Chinese revolution is a bit scetchy), Is there any example of such people living a long and happy life?
Should we go and find their history teachers and beat (figuratively) some sense in them?
I know of a counter-example, where a revolution succeeded and the street-level grunts found themselves in a niche representing continuing authority: the Basij in Iran.
They are technically a paramilitary auxiliary formally supervised by and reporting up to the Revolutionary Guard (the word “basij” might be translated as something like “mobilized force”), and they can be, and have been, called up and deployed in organized fashion for internal control of order. In everyday practice, though, these guys are essentially pseudocivilian thugs who have been empowered to run around inside the country as more or less independent gangs, seeking out and stomping on any early signs of resistance to the regime. They occupy a place of power below the uniformed military but above the general citizenry; the buzz of their trademark motorcycles is recognized by every Iranian as the signal for their arrival, and the cue to keep your head down and hope they aren’t interested in you.
I would say they represent the best case scenario for what these back-of-the-truck morons are hoping to achieve — their existence pays lip service to law and order, but in reality they simply bear official sanction to autonomously crack the heads of anyone they don’t like.
I think in general your statement holds, but it’s not an absolute with zero exceptions.
Thanks, I forgot about Iran; I guess the Taliban are also doing ok:(
Still being a brown shirt irl is about as good a career as a red shirt on a Star Trek landing expedition.
Well, there’s your problem. I’d bet good money that if any of those idiots in the truck knew who the SA were, their level of knowledge wouldn’t be much higher than, “Oh, yeah, those were the guys kicking the shit out of commies in street fights!!! Cooool!!!”