A way to tell apart the 5-dollar hookers and undercover cops

I keep reading “undercover” as “underwear.” Underwear cops! :stuck_out_tongue:

Also, I would like to hear the OP say “vulva” to anybody.

That thread is crazy interesting.

Frmmmph!”

“Huh?”
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<spit><cough>* “FREEZE!”

Why not first pretend that YOU are the cop? If she is a policewoman she’ll laugh at the screwy mix-up and you’ll be off the hook.

Impersonating a police officer? That’s so crazy the OP just might try it.

If the OP is regularly encountering $5 hookers, he is posting either from Deadwood circa 1884 or Haiti.

In neither case does he have to worry much about undercover cops.

A slightly different question: in many European countries, prostitution is legal…but solicitation is not.
How does the business transaction go down, say, in Hamburg Germany?

There are brothels in Germany. I suppose there’s street prostitution too, though.
France fit your bill. Solicitation is illegal, but it still happens. Police might make arrests, bring the girls to a police station and fine them, if they feel like it, or if there has been complaints in the neighborhood, or if someone has decided to “clean” a particular area. It’s not something that is constantly or harshly enforced, as far as I know.

I couldn’t fill you about the details of a transaction, because I’ve never used the services of a prostitute.

…Or Dort Hwy, in Flint, Mi.

Next time I go to the store, I’m going to put a drill under my shirt. If/when I get stopped, I’ll tell the cops that I was merely “borrowing” it, and was planning on returning it when done with my project.

Next time I cruise the projects for some crack, I’ll make sure to ask the corner boy if he’s a cop - he has to say “Yes” if he is, otherwise it’s entrapment.

I can’t speak for Germany, but here in the UK, prostitution is legal, and always has been. However, advertising the fact you are a prostitute (soliciting) isn’t and the police can arrest streetwalkers - though usually anyone out on the streets has drug/alcohol and perhaps health problems too, so the emphasis these days is on keeping residential streets clear of hookers by getting them help with their social issues rather than throwing the weight of the law at them and giving them a fine that they cannot pay.

If two prostitutes operate under one roof, they are running a brothel, which is against the law. Anyone concerned in the running of the brothel can be arrested for “living off immoral earnings” ie. being a pimp.

I noticed somewhere in the thread it was mentioned that men who are looking for hookers are rarely targetted by the police - this is not the case in the UK, in fact the emphasis has changed to tackling the client rather than the prostitute. Men cruising up and down, harassing women, especially in residential areas, is a big problem and the authorities regularly have clamp-downs to stamp it out.

The offence is “solicitation” , known as “Kerb crawling”, and a man doesn’t need to agree a price, money doesn’t need to change hands, he just needs to ask if someone is “looking for business”, or even just stop the car and beckon a woman over. The undercover cop will decline, say some magic words into her hidden mic, then when the man drives away, the place is lit up by blue lights and the man gets pulled over.

IIRC, he could deny all suggestion that he was soliciting a prostitute, and I think it would be hard to prove in a court of law that an offence has been committed, but the shock of being pulled over by marked cars and given a dressing down usually makes a man tacitly admit he may have been perhaps looking for a hooker, so the police are able to nick and charge him, or more usually, issue a caution and advise him not to do it again. This will hopefully bring his kerb-crawling career to an end, but if he’s caught again, he will find himself in court.
Men who are caught in a red-light district, perhaps in the wife’s car, late at night when they are supposed to be working away, may be reluctant to challenge the police to prove in court that they were looking for a prostitute, especially when details will be published in the local papers, unless they are genuinely innocent. Most prefer to quietly take their warning and leave it at that.

The police don’t even need to use undercover officers - if they see a man picking up a woman, they can pull the car over and if the woman is a known prostitute (and the chances are that if she’s low enough to be streetwalking, she will be known to the police) the man can be accused of solicitation. Of course, he will pretend he knows her, but when he can’t tell the officer her name, address or anything else, he will probably cave in and accept his fate, especially if the woman is already admitting to it being the start of a business transaction. Because the police probably won’t get heavy-handed on her, she’s not going to lie too much, being detained by the police is a hazard of the job, and will lead to her getting a nice cup of tea, get to see a social worker or drug counsellor, and that’s that. Women who keep getting caught out on the street are at the end of the line anyway, one way or another, and are unlikely to have razor sharp legal minds, so they won’t deny it for long…especially if the police turn up a rock of crack in their handbag.

Here in the UK, we are under CCTV surveillance everywhere, pretty much, and in recent times, cars seen to be cruising up and down in red light areas, or stopping to talk to women are traced and the owners sent letters warning them that their behavious MAY be an offence, so to be careful. This deters married men and company car drivers - letters like that are hard to explain! It’s effective in stopping men from kerb-crawling, but introduces questions about freedom and Big Brother watching you etc.

There are many ways to engage a prostitute that don’t involve kerb-crawling - this here interweb thang is an excellent marketing tool. Even the old card in the newsagents’ window advertising “French Lessons” is popular, or any Free Ads paper. Like I said, it’s not against the law (and so long as prostitutes file their tax returns correctly, no-one is going to try to stop them)
“Escorting” is seen as almost acceptable to lots of people these days, apparently it’s not the same as being a hooker, and they get very defensive when you use that word, even if you are paying to smash their back doors in.

The practice of looking for women on the street is something from the dark past, and seen as infinitely more sordid and dangerous to your health - both parties are not going to be the kind of people you want to be touching in any circumstances!
Put it this way, it wouldn’t be a deal-breaker if a woman told me she’d been an escort, but if she told me she’d been a streetwalker, I’d drop her like a hot iron assuming she had a drug/alcohol addiction, scabies and other incurable STIs. It makes my skin crawl thinking about it!

It’s only by pushing on the frontiers of science that we advance as a society. I nominate the OP for bravery; $5 hookers? With all the traffic that’s driven on her freeway, imagine what the $5 hooker road looks (and feels) like. The OP is experimenting en vivo - taking 1 for the team of science!