This explains a great deal about Washington culture.
At what point does it become news when a scion of Camelot isn’t acting like a fool when he’s polluted?
Ah well. At least this one had his pants on.
Regards,
Shodan
Right, which is why i think that, given the information we currently have, the biggest fault in this situation lies with the police. If Kennedy does turn out to have been driving drunk (if there’s even any way to establish that now), i’ll be the first to condemn him. But if this incident really was caused by an uncontrollable response to prescription drugs, then i’m not interested in hanging him for it.
You also don’t know how much he drank. The woman in the story said he was drinking “a little bit.”
Right, which is a point almost everyone—on both sides of the political spectrum—seems to agree on.
I mentioned that, when I said “Whether that’s two hours or six hours before I don’t know.” I’m throwing it out there because it could be proof he was imbibing before getting in the car. But I also acknowledge this could be some waitress trying to insert herself in a big story by telling a fib.
Bottom line is, we don’t know what his BAL was, and now we will never know.
I hope he gets the help he needs in rehab. I also hope he’s doing it because he hit bottom and not for damage control.
He mentions previous addiction to pain medication. How would that apply here?
Daniel
Oh this is fascinating. Tell me good sir, who exactly is it that I “fanatically support”?
Well this one’s a little closer to home than the usual Kennedy fiasco. Say your famous dad (you know Patrick is Teddy’s son, right?) was involved in a car accident where someone died and there was reasonable suspicion that he was drunk at the time but got off due to his fame. Many years later you were pulled over by police for driving erratically and there was reasonable suspicion you were drunk at the time, but you got off due to your fame. Wouldn’t it be reasonable to compare the two cases?
Not playing that game, homey. If you want to pretend that you’re an “independent” that’s up to you.
I’m not going to further your delusions.
-Joe
To those who feel it was a partisan swipe, you’re mistaken. Had Rick Santorum been involved in such an incident, I’d have Pitted him, on top of the other numerous reasons I’ve already got for loathing the guy. As others have noted, the Kennedys seem to feel like they’re above the law, time and again, which was part of my OP. So, mhendo, suck it.
This mystery woman who refuses to come forward or give her name, is actually a hostess, not even a waitress, let alone a bartender. Therefore she’s in even less of a position to know whether or not he had any alcohol, seeing as how she didn’t actually serve him.
Thanks for the link. For the benefit of Jackmannii, in case he doesn’t have an account and can’t read the article (bolding mine),
Then I will discount her claim even more.
The guy’s getting help. I just hope he’s getting it for the right reasons.
I think it’s more likely that Daddy taught him that “I have to go to the Hill for a vote” are the Words of Warding aginst police in this situation:
Specifically, what was it about Patrick Kennedy’s behavior in this case that could be construed as “above the law”?
Ambien is crazy shit, I can vouch for that. I love it, but it’s crazy. It’s like a psychedelic or something, you feel really good, but everything takes on a surreal quality. Then if you stay awake on it you don’t remember what you did after it took effect. I’ve never felt any effects the next morning though.
You can dislike the Kennedys all you like. And Santorum for that matter.
I’m not criticizing your OP for being partisan; i’m criticizing it—and you—for being stupid. Once again, you provide us with a substance-free Pit thread, in which your pathetic eagerness to express indignance outruns your grasp of the facts.
Maybe you didn’t realise that choie’s script was not meant to be taken seriously.
That was my first thought. I wonder if Pops drilled this into his head in the same way that a DWI lawyer will tell you that your first and only words regarding a breathalyzer is “I refuse to offer a sample of blood or breath for analysis.”
Patrick has been open and honest about his past drug problems. You are aware that he spent time in rehab before, right? He’s also fairly open about his battles with depression and is an advocate on Capitol Hill concerning mental health issues.
Yeah, right. Given your posting history, I’m certain that last statement comes a something of a surprise to people here. I guess you just don’t realize that you come off as some sort of Republican tool to many of those who read your posts. Well, now you’ve been informed.
Yeah, but the first one of those, in fact the first reply of any kind to the OP, is Airman Door’s sophomoric and entirely predictable Chappaquiddick reference, which kind of makes it a bit less of a straw man, doesn’t it?
If you would like to deny that there are many Republicans who who will take every opportunity they can to bash any political figure namedd “Kennedy” in any way they can, well, go right ahead. I don’t think, however, that your argument will be very persuasive.
The local DC news is practically wetting their pants with joy over this whole thing. I just saw a story on the local NBC station a little while ago in which they gleefully discussed whether there’s a constitutional prohibition against arresting him (Article I, Section 6, “…They shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same;”), all turning on whether the session is the day’s business or when Congress as a whole is not in recess; and they were quite thrilled about the fact that daddy’s office immediately took over damage control as far as dealing with the press. Methinks this won’t be the last we hear of all of this, whether or not he had any alcohol in his system or anything else.
Frankly, it’s still not Wilbur Mills and Fanny Fox, but I guess they have to take their scandals where they can get them. 
Will you ever develop the intellectual acumen to appreciate the fact that disliking both major political parties does not automatically free you from ideological positions or make you a bastion of disinterested objectivity?
Man, CNN is going nuts over this. Congressman named Kennedy appears to get special treatment by the cops. Stop the presses! I guess the resignation of the CIA chief today isn’t all that interesting…
I almost feel sorry for the guy, except his story is kind of bizarre*-- not just this story, but all the other stuff they’re digging up about him. I also like the part where he claims he didn’t drink, but he also claims he didn’t remember getting into his car. No wonder he’s hightailin’ it to the Mayo clinic-- every reporter in town would be on his ass night and day to see if they catch him doing something.
It’s true that the Kennedys are as close as you get to political royalty in the US, but you need to multiply that by 10x in New England (for those posters not from that part of the country). I can’t believe this will affect his re-election bid. He’s got one of the safest seats in the country, so count on seeing him back on the hill in January.
Yeah, yeah the police should treat us all equally, but you can’t blame him if the cops gave him an out-- would any of us not have taken it if we could? I blame the cops for that, not Kennedy.
*or, biz-AHHHH, as we Rhode Islanders like to say