ACORN does not register Dems, it registers poor people. How those people vote is of no consequence to ACORN.
Or, you know, fake up wrongdoing and get it out there under “Some people say” cover.
And your naivete surprises me. The Republicans very much are trying to dismantle ACORN because they register Dems. If ACORN were somehow causing all those poor people to vote Republican, the Republicans would be taking bullets for them.
Indeed. This Glenn Beck character obviously has a huge publicity problem right now, with the accusations that he raped and killed a young girl in 1990. I disagree, but regardless, it’s beyond cavil that the publicity problem exists. Glenn Beck has to do something to manage his response, and in my opinion, taking the approach of denying that a real problem exists and doing nothing at all except for repeating the denial will not be a productive response.
Indeed, it might even cause such claims to be repeated again and again, that he raped and murdered a young girl in 1990.
The people who set up ACORN are getting sued. They are not allowed to film people without their permission.
ACORN does not know what party affiliation the people they are registering . You are not allowed to discuss it at all. There are more democrats than republicans. More poor people are unregistered than the better off. Therefore registering is more easily done in poorer neighborhoods. And ACORN will turn in more registrations if they focus on poorer neighborhoods.
Who can honestly say if they were contracted to register voters, they would spend their time registering in wealthy areas? You would not turn in enough registrations to justify the cost.
And this just in…
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/28/huckabee-un-acorn/
**Huckabee: Let The United Nations, The ‘International Equivalent Of ACORN,’ Float Into The East River **
Judge them by their enemies.
Holy Fuck. I kinda liked Huckabee but this. I wouldn’t be surprised by serious problems with the UN but how the hell can we exist in a modern world without making efforts to communicate, reach agreements, and strive to solve problems with the nations we share the planet with.
Is this, by any chance, the same party that tried to use the law enforcement power of the Justice Department to sway elections? You remember, don’t you? About firing US Attorneys that wouldn’t use the power of their office to attack political enemies?
Or maybe the better question would be: are you kidding?
Of course, if the Republicans wanted ACORN to register more Republicans, the logical thing to do would be to develop more policies which appeal to poor and minority voters.
Of course, they might also just as likely fund a study into the military applications of airborne swine.
What are you, some kind of Frenchie loving socialist? Or a freakin interlectual?
Investigate, sure. I believe that any entity which receives public funds should be put under the microscope every so often- keeps 'em honest.
However, there’s a difference between an investigation and a witch hunt- and it’s a witch hunt we’re seeing with ACORN right now. The Right has been looking for something, anything, with which to destroy ACORN. And what’s more, you guys are *proud *of it.
How proud do you think you’d be if it was one of your pet organizations that was being so threatened?
And you know what’s really funny? I don’t give a damn about ACORN. I’d never heard of them at all until two months before the election. I just have a feeling that the Right’s hard on for ACORN investigation might not be for the right reasons, you know?
This is no witch hunt. ACORN workers were shown to have turned in falsified voter registrations and dumped them a short time before the deadline.
Dale Rathke embezzled $1M which was covered up by ACORN executives.
ACORN workers seem willing to help people hide income from the IRS and help a pimp and hooker set up a brothel.
The Senate Finance Committee report definitely suggests that money from the tax-exempt arms of ACORN is being used by the political arms.
The wrongdoing of the individual workers does not necessarily mean that ACORN as a whole is at fault. But the workers wrongdoing, along with potential wrongdoing by ACORN, suggests that the organization should be investigated if they want to continue to receive tax dollars. They can do whatever they want to do, just don’t use tax money.
Did you bother to read the rest of my post?
The rest of your post was just more of the same debunked and/or meaningless horseshit. None of it contains a shred of wrongdoing or corruption by ACORN as an organization.
You guys would have more credibility if you showed even a morsel of concern for the very real, long term kinds of fraud committed by defense contractors.
Conservatives are afraid of ACORN because it registers black people to vote. It’s just that simple. There is nothing more to it.
Except we’ve got this thread right here. ACORN was required to submit all voter registrations they received- it would have been *illegal *for them not to have.
Except ACORN was the company he embezzled from. ACORN was the victim. Maybe they didn’t handle it as well as they should have- but they were still the victim.
Except we’ve never seen the full, unedited tape. The tape which, by the way, was apparently recorded illegally. And the tape alleges that the ACORN worker killed her husband- the husband which is actually alive. And the worker reported the “pimp” to the police.
Except that’s not exactly been verified, has it? And how can something be “definitely suggested”?
That’s a hell of a lot of supposition and spin, don’t you think? We’ve got far more on, say, Blackwater… and they aren’t being subjected to the same investigation. Why has ACORN been singled out?
The thing that gets me with all the noise about this is that almost any even somewhat large organization there will be problems and bad apples. Look at what actually happens in reality during elections. Most Republicans are screaming about ACORN before and after the election to damage Obama, not because they are truly think there’s a serious problem.
Any organization requires oversight and regular maintainence as the bad apples are weeded out. That’s just a fact of life among humans. Why is this story getting so much press and an inordinate amount of righteous outrage? It’s political pure and simple. There is no indication of widespread corruption and the amount of money set aside for them by federal programs is not all that significant. Want to save millions , possibly billions and correct some real injustice? Let’s investigate the contractors in the middle east. Can I get an Amen from the GOP? No!? Gee Whiz!
I, for one, would love to see an investigation of contractors in the middle east. Why aren’t the Democrats doing it?
I think that’s too much of a leap. ACORN registers people who are likely to vote Democratic. That available pool is disproportionately brown and poor and young, true. The volume of available unregistereds who are likely to vote Republican is far smaller, and has largely been tapped by their own drives among the evangelical community over the last decade or two.
What they fear, and therefore hate, is the loss of power that having more people vote would entail. There is no doubt a racial element to that fear for many of them, sure, but it’s only necessary to do an easy and cold political calculation to explain why ACORN, and for that matter any attempt to get opposing-party voters to the polls, has to be discredited and stopped.
Oh, Oh, I know this one!
Blackwater is not being investigated because when their employee commit minor crimes like shooting 17 innocent people to death, they are given an immunity deal.
We have a daily calender at work that is sayings and signs that have a ridiculous element or really bad grammar.
One recent one was a testimony of a a contractor who was being accused of war profiteering. He said something close to;
“The contract was to provide trucks and we provided the trucks. Whether or not they were operational is immaterial”
At that point a large Marine Colonel should have throttled the SOB and screamed “People are dieing over here asshole”