adaher
November 19, 2015, 1:55pm
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No, they are actually chickenshit. You’re just projecting. My stand is based on a principle. Theirs is based on saving their political careers.
Smapti
November 19, 2015, 2:03pm
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I haven’t seen you espouse any principle in this thread other than “Foreigners scare me”.
There’s also “Republicans good, Democrats bad.”
Trion
November 19, 2015, 2:08pm
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You, post 255.
Was this a statement of principle?
Kobal2
November 19, 2015, 2:08pm
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Cognitive dissonance is a harsh mistress.
Standing on adaher’s moral high ground is likely to make your feet wet.
Still trying to understand your view on nuking Syria, adaher . Do you really believe that a non-retaliatory nuclear strike on a country that posed nothing close to an existential threat and had not attacked us military (or significantly at all) would not weaken America in any way other than “morally”?
It’s okay to walk it back if you recognize how ridiculous that sounds.
running_coach:
State Department stats on refugees.
Yes, we let in Iranians. I’ll bet that scares you half to death.
Plenty of Iranians came here after the Shaw fell, including a good acquaintance of ours – now a small business owner, grateful and proud to call America home, wants what’s best for her daughter, pays her taxes, etc. You know, just like us!
How would Syrians be any different?
iiandyiiii:
Still trying to understand your view on nuking Syria, adaher . Do you really believe that a non-retaliatory nuclear strike on a country that posed nothing close to an existential threat and had not attacked us military (or significantly at all) would not weaken America in any way other than “morally”?
It’s okay to walk it back if you recognize how ridiculous that sounds.
Good luck with that, adaher is not taking away his misrepresentations and straw men. They are essential for his lack of good faith in this issue.
He will carry water for the Republican candidates that will push for fear and bigotry. And lie about what others are saying to make it so.
His standard approach when caught out is to pretend nothing happened. His cowardice keeps him from learning.
inscrutable:
Plenty of Iranians came here after the Shaw fell, including a good acquaintance of ours – now a small business owner, grateful and proud to call America home, wants what’s best for her daughter, pays her taxes, etc. You know, just like us!
Interestingly, the Shah of Persia fell about 4 years after the Shaw fell due to a giant shark attack .
Smapti
November 19, 2015, 3:02pm
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inscrutable:
Plenty of Iranians came here after the Shaw fell, including a good acquaintance of ours – now a small business owner, grateful and proud to call America home, wants what’s best for her daughter, pays her taxes, etc. You know, just like us!
Obviously he’s just biding his time waiting for exactly the right moment to strike.
inscrutable:
Plenty of Iranians came here after the Shaw fell, including a good acquaintance of ours – now a small business owner, grateful and proud to call America home, wants what’s best for her daughter, pays her taxes, etc. You know, just like us!
How would Syrians be any different?
Just in case that is sincere, (of course not, that was inscrutable ) we should not forget why the Syrians are being accepted as refuges:
In April, Miliband, who is based at IRC’s headquarters in New York City, visited Hamsah and his family at their small apartment on the west side of Phoenix.
“You couldn’t meet people more grateful for the freedoms and the opportunities the rest of us take for granted,” Miliband said.
He described how Hamsah had “tears in his eyes” recalling how his children grew up in Syria hearing bullets whiz by their home.
Hamsah said in an interview later that he was living in the ancient city of Homs, working as a butcher, when the Syrian conflict erupted.
Thagreed, his wife, sat quietly on a sofa nearby wearing a long dress and a head scarf, indicating her Muslim faith. The couple’s two youngest children, 2 1/2-year-old Nour, and 20-month-old Yasmeen, flitted in and out of the room. Their four older children, ranging in age from 7 to 16, were at school.
Inspired by the Arab Spring pro-democracy uprisings in other parts of the region, thousands of protesters began demonstrating in Syrian cities in March 2011 in opposition to President Bashar al-Assad and his repressive government.
The demonstrations, however, quickly descended into civil war after security forces fired on protesters and anti-government demonstrators took up arms. The extremist group Islamic State, also known as ISIS, has since entered the conflict, which according to the United Nations has killed more than 220,000 people and wounded another 840,000.
Homs was devastated during a siege that lasted three years as Assad’s regime used military force to root out rebel forces.
With the help of opposition groups, the couple and their small children fled to another part of the city. But within days the fighting spread there.
Hamsah and his family fled again, traveling by bus to Damascus.
Hamsah was surprised how peaceful life was in the Syrian capital, compared with the fighting raging two hours away in Homs.
Hamsah and his family spent 28 days living in al-Hajar, a suburb of Damascus, until the fighting also spread there.
They finally decided to seek refuge in neighboring Jordan, traveling first to the southern city of Daraa by taxi and then walking the final miles across the border on foot.
After spending two years and three months living as refugees in Amman, Jordan, Hamsah and his family learned through the United Nations that their applications for resettlement in another country had been accepted.
You have the opportunity to live in the United States, they were told.
“We never dreamed of living in the United States,” Thagreed said. “We were living a very simple life. We never dreamed of leaving Syria.”
They landed at Sky Harbor airport in Phoenix on July 1.
And Governor Doug Ducey is being a Douche.
Try “Doug Ducey is being Douchey.”
One of the problems in political discussion/debate is that too many of you feel that everyone must blindly believe every single once of bullshit from either one side or the other.
So what the Arizona Republic newspaper reported was bullshit? I will take them more at their word than yours, thank you very much.
Really, it is your problem if you do want to rely on sources of information that are lying to you. What you are saying here is that you do want to be lied to instead of demanding your side to be better than what the sorry cowardice that they are showing now.
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No, he (?) means he was actually being sincere about his Iranian friend. Chill out, man.
Really_Not_All_That_Bright:
No, he (?) means he was actually being sincere about his Iranian friend. Chill out, man.
Ok, sorry about that **inscrutable **. I only saw sarcasm as you always insist your posts are.
No problem, no sarcasm this time, but there must have been some reason I picked this stupid user name.