I thought the producers flat out admitted who she is right after the winter finale. Her dad’s name is Cal, and she’s a SHIELD agent named Daisy. Heck, even the wikipedia page for Quake lists Skye as her MCU version.
Ok thanks. I haven’t seen CA2 yet and it’s been a few years since I saw the first one (although it is on my DVR from when it was on FX a couple weeks ago). I vaguely remember the character now. Need to go back and catch up on my CA movies!
As soon as Black Widow went out the window me and my brother both said “she’s alive”, but then they focused the camera on her and the very large pool of blood around her head and we went “guess not”. If you are going to have her survive don’t go out of your way to make the fall look unsurvivable.
I loved the series, I hope there’ll be another one, and I’m really looking forward to the return of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Guess I’m just the kind of patsy Marvel is looking for.
Two minor things bugged me tonight. Any New Yorker watching this episode surely cringed at the depiction of City Hall. (The real City Hall has a park across the street, so no place to shoot a gun from. Still.)
And why did the German doctor posing as a Russian continue to speak with a Russian (kinda) accent when he was alone with his accomplice?
But all told, the plot hung together over all 8 episodes, the evocation of the era was marvelous*, and I liked a lot of the cast members. Sign me up for more.
*Pun not intended.
I enjoyed it overall… although Peggy having the drop on two extremely competent baddies, one of whom has the power of hypnosis and one of whom she knows has super-fighting skills, and the gets the gun kicked out of her hand… sigh.
Where’s Jack “ok, now shoot him again, honey” Bauer when you need him?
Would there have been a black cop in NYC in this time period?
And no sealing off the area/determined search to capture Dottie Badass?
That said, I thoroughly enjoyed the series. It made the wait for more AoS easier and entertained me all the way through.
I actually liked that, having survived a seemingly unsurvivable fall, she snuck away into the night with her tail between her legs. If she had followed the trope and reappeared for one last fight, then I’d agree with your complaint. We find out she’s not dead, but she clearly suffered a major head wound with significant bleeding. Better that she just sneak away and tend to her injuries.
He wasn’t a German posing as a Russian. He was Russian and served in the Russian military, that’s why he was present at Finow. Apparently, the original character from the comic books is Austrian but the character as reimagined for the T.V. show is definitely Russian.
I have done absolutely no research on this, but in the 1940 film His Girl Friday (taking place in New York) there is reference to a black police officer.
When this series started, I was already a fan of the Agent Cater short film. In other Threads since the start of the T.V. series a few posters have speculated about how the short film and the series were meant to fit together.
After the first few episodes, I stopped expecting them to fit. Here’s how I now see it:
The Agent Cater short film was basically “The Story of Peggy Carter’s Time at the SSR in the Post-War Years” told in 15 minutes.
Because there was only 15 minutes to tell the whole story (she was unappreciated and disrespected/kept from important assignments/ultimately proved herself by taking assignments without official approval/was finally asked to join the founding leadership of S.H.I.E.L.D.), timelines get compacted and characters get composited. The Zodiac assignment functions as a single stand-in for “She made her own opportunities to prove herself as a valuable agent”. The film opens with her being undervalued and disrespected and ends with her asking to help found S.H.I.E.L.D. with just this one assignment in between as if the entire story of Peggy Carter at the SSR takes place in a very short span of time. This is all just a function of the storytelling, however, it’s not meant to represent the fuller reality of accurate history.
Samuel Battle misses it pretty close.
Pretty sure she prefers the term “Dottie Brasco”.
…her getting coffee and lunch orders?
A little googling turned up this, which lists George Redding as an NYPD patrolman in the '20s who made sergeant in the '30s and lieutenant in the '40s before becoming a captain in the '50s; see also Emmanuel Kline and Lloyd Sealy, who also seem to fit the bill; plus who-knows-how-many others who qualify but weren’t “firsts”.
(F’rinstance, they mention Louis Chihsholm, who became the first African-American to supervise integrated patrol units after making sergeant in 1930. So, y’know, somebody was in those units, right?)
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My wife and I saw that and simultaneously said to each other: “Is that accurate?”
Yep, again my wife and I both said “She’s not dead” That’s drama 101. The bad guys aren’t ever dead if they appear dead but at a long distance from the hero.
Jeez Louise, he was just having a bit of fun with a typo. I laughed.
I finally go to watch it last night…The show kind of petered out at the end but was still enjoyable.
My hope at the end was that when the Senator breezed in and started praising Thompson, I thought there’d be a scene of them in the Chief’s old office. The Senator would tell him that he was going to do everything in his power to see that he’s put in charge of this field office. The scene would end with a handshake and the Senator leaning in and whispering “Heil Hydra.”
The Zola ending was okay, but not that great because it didn’t really fill in an modern day holes from the movies or from Agents of Shield and it didn’t really set anything up concrete.
Great link. Ignorance fought. Thanks.
A late thought here.
I wonder if the Leviathan program was introduced to retcon Scarlett Johansson’s Black Widow character? It’s been implied that Natasha Romanov is a former Soviet spy. But with the Soviet Union having been defunct since 1991, this was becoming pretty unbelievable. By bringing in the idea of Leviathan using young girls as assassins, it makes it somewhat plausible that a woman around Johansson’s age could have been a Soviet agent.
Well, in the Avengers, when she was sent to fetch dr. Banner and used a young girl to lure him to a house on the outskirts of town, he said something like “Starting them young, aren’t you?” to which she replied something like “I was that age when I started”. So it would fit with what was already stated in-universe.
She’s mentioned on a couple of occasions about going through a change of governments. Now granted, assuming the character is around Johansson’s age that would be true. But when the Black Widow has referred to going through a change of governments, she doesn’t talk about it the way somebody who was in kindergarten would talk about it. She appears to act like it had a significant effect on her life. And she’s also implied that she used to work for a much more sinister organization before joining Shield and that she has a past she has difficulty living with.
This would all work if she was one of the Leviathan trainees. She would have been received the spy training as a child. And we saw that part of the training was having the girls occasionally kill their peers. If you add a couple of years to her age, you can have Natasha Romanov being around twelve years old, going through the training, killing a few other girls, being totally brainwashed into loyalty to the system - and then having that system collapse and dumping her out in the world. There’s a heck of a back story.