Don’t be getting “oh, those persecuted atheletes” on us. Any school group that got caught in a similar situation would have similar consequenses. The stakes may be a little higher only in that athletic scholorships are sweet.
Band members have gotten in trouble before. The Texas Southern University band got in deep doodoo for shoplifting, in Japan, around 1989. Oh, but the jocks are such a reviled group!
It does not matter which ones are acceptable to mock. The ones that you consider unacceptable for mocking DO get mocked.
No, you were not. You were expressing contempt for athletes. ‘Jocky-wocky’ is not a complimentary term. But I suppose athletes are not on the ‘protected groups’ list, and are fair game.
I seriously doubt you were as involved with sports as you claim to have been. But, being that this is the wild and anonymous internet, we’ll never know.
I must agree with the other posters as to the normalcy of young men visiting strip clubs. The guys I went to high school with talked about it every Friday.
If the parents or students in question are protesting their punishment, well, they’re idiots. They signed the code of conduct; they knew what it said.
What they should be protesting is the code of conduct itself. What possible impact could a visit to a strip club have on with one’s ability to play baseball or represent the team?
It was mimicking the tone of voice the parents use when speaking of their “talented” offspring. I’ve heard enough of them in this town, and their voices get sickeningly sweet when the relate tales of “precious jocky wocky”.
Are you really going to tell me what my own motivations happen to be? You truly think you are that all knowing? BULLSHIT!!!
Here is a link, to prove that part of what I said really happened. Look at the year 1986, 3A size schools. You will see the last name of Mater, (her first name is Sandra), under the city name of Hoisington. (Not where I currently live btw.) She was on the team my freshman and sophomore years. The last I knew, her record STILL stands, tied, but unbroken all these years later. Now, if that part of what I said is true, don’t you think the rest is too? The record was set at state competition. Girls Cross Country Records
Hmmm, ok I thought it gave times on that page. I know I saw the times, and records set. Back to find the actual record. Sandra Mater does hold the record for 3A size schools in cross country, for the state of Kansas. She also still had some sprinting records on the board the last time I checked.
The code of ethics contained a stupid rule. The way one gets rid of stupid rules is by being busted under them, then complaining your ass off. These kids were having a good time, and not hurting anyone. Who the fuck cares? Payton’s Servant, I suggest you remove the stick from your ass.
Um, it is illegal. As is underaged drinking . As is a parent taking these kids to to strip bar and getting them served alcohol. And the kids were on a school sponsored trip, so the school is responsible for them and should have something to say about all of this.
You don’t have a problem with underaged kids committing illegal acts while under school supervision?
The ‘illegal’ here is ‘American Bizarrely Puritanical Morality Laws’ illegal, such as ‘underage’ drinking. Then we have ‘Cut people into little peices’ illegal, which is not what happened here.
If we were talking about a sexually active gay teen in some states, they would also be breaking the law. Should they be expelled? Punished?
Those parents are blowin’ smoke on that one. Unless this is a very unusual high school baseball team, there will be from zero to two players that earn a baseball scholarship to college. More parents may want aid for their kids, but it’s unlikely to be forthcoming. Most baseball scholarships are “partials” anyway: 1/5, 1/4 or in some cases 1/2 of what a full scholarship would be.
The parents have a better chance of getting their kid’s college financed through a lawsuit over this than they do an actual baseball scholarship.
FWIW, I went to my first “strip show” at age 14. shrug The only big deal I see here is that a parent was involved in helping them out.
Hmm, this one is more difficult. Yes, as long as they are blowing fellow students, and are not being pimped. For scholarship points is a tougher scenario, since administrators from colleges are unlikely to be hanging around high school football stadiums.
Marijuana and alcohol, though I wouldn’t recommend they sell either.
No, that’s no good at all, when weapons are involved a good time simply cannot be had by all.
Son, what we have here is a failure to communicate.
At least this was non-destructive. The year after I finished high school, a group of seniors on the soccer team thought it would be a hoot to ride around town shooting the windshields of parked cars with a BB gun. They hit my car, my mom’s car, and about 30 others in the neighborhood.
The parents pleaded with the owners of the damaged cars not to press charges, as it would hurt their pwecious babies chances of getting into college. In particular, one who wouldn’t be able to get into West Point if he had a criminal record.
The charges were dropped in exchange for them paying to replace every damaged windshield. I was away at college at the time and didn’t hear about any of this until after it was finished and settled, otherwise I might have been willing to pay for the repairs myself in exchange for a day in court.
You, are an astonishingly stupid Fuck Nugget who obviously has no morals or ethics or manners.
The players violated a specific district code of conduct and a specific athletic code of conduct.
I do not have a stick up my ass.
Tell me, Alereon, how would you feel if you came home and found your 16 year old son having sex with a girl?
Would you give him a standing ovation? Hold up a lighter and yell for an encore? Offer them an after-sex cigarette? Invite the girl to stay for dinner?
Interesting news item. Since they are children, the parent who arranged this is solely responsible. Punish the parent; slap the kids’ wrists (lecture them with shaking jowls) but let them go scott free.
Oh, by the way, I have no morals or ethics either, obviously.
Given that these young men were, presumably, aware of the code of conduct and aware of the consequences of breaking it, I really don’t see that they have any real cause for complaint.
However, as the mother of a 16 year old, I really can’t say I’d be over concerned about my son’s morals if I found he’d visited a strip club. I might have a talk with him about what was going on in his head about his view of women and healthy relationships with women, but honestly, wanting to go to a strip club is not that unexpected or unhealthy in a 16 or 17 year old boy.
And, specifically addressing Payton’s Servant, if I somehow found that my son was having sex, I’d have pretty much the same discussion with him, including some reinforcement on the lessons about safety and responsibility that his father and I have been imparting to him for years, but again, I can’t say I’d be overly concerned about his moral state. 16 year olds have sex, and it’s not really an abnormal or alarming desire or action.