I think burgled and burglarised are another of the across the pond differences discussed earlier.
Houses are burgled here, never burglarised.
The only time I have ever seen or heard burglarised was on an American TV programme.
Over here, the verb is to burgle, the person who does it is the burglar and the thing he does it to has been burgled.
Is the American verb to burglarise? Is the perpetrator a burglariser - given that the house is burglarised?
(The word has lost all meaning to me, now that I have typed it so many times!)
jjimm
August 26, 2003, 8:23am
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*Originally posted by soulmurk *
**Burgled is a transitive verb, requiring an object to complete its meaning.
Burglarized is an intransitive verb, not requiring an object.**
I don’t know whether “burglarized” exists in the UK/Ireland, but we certainly never use it (I’m guessing the Antipodeans don’t either) - “burgled” is used in both transitive and intransitive states.
Back atcha (to me, anyway) - it just seems to be adding extra syllables to an already perfectly servicable word.
jjimm
August 26, 2003, 8:24am
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Hah, I promise you curly chick’s response wasn’t there when I previewed. I’m glad we’re singing from the same hymn sheet though…
sailor
August 26, 2003, 12:45pm
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How about “assertation”? Some people believe it is a real word. Like:
lezlers , catsix , Caesar’s Ghost , UncleBill , autz , sugaree , Bongmaster , Dooku , iampunha , scule , Miller , iampunha again , Tars Tarkas , MC Master of Ceremonies , Carl_A_Norris , Satisfying Andy Licious , lezlers again .
Recommended reading: Improving your English is both easy and fun! (mild rant at native English speakers) .
sailor , how long have you been working on that list?
No, I don’t mean anything by asking. Just curious…
:eek:
jjimm
August 26, 2003, 1:50pm
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*Originally posted by Derleth *
**sailor , how long have you been working on that list?
No, I don’t mean anything by asking. Just curious…
:eek: **
Are you insinuatating something?
kabbes
August 26, 2003, 2:11pm
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I should imagine that he just used the search feature, surely?
sailor
August 26, 2003, 2:16pm
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Yeah, I know I have to get a life and I’m doing what I can. I was offered one just last week but it was too expensive and I couldn’t afford it so, for now, it seems like the SDMB is the next best thing.
Miller
August 26, 2003, 6:23pm
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*Originally posted by sailor *
**How about “assertation”? Some people believe it is a real word. Like:
lezlers , catsix , Caesar’s Ghost , UncleBill , autz , sugaree , Bongmaster , Dooku , iampunha , scule , Miller , iampunha again , Tars Tarkas , MC Master of Ceremonies , Carl_A_Norris , Satisfying Andy Licious , lezlers again .
Recommended reading: Improving your English is both easy and fun! (mild rant at native English speakers) . **
Shit! :smack:
Excuse me while I go write “assertion” 100 times on the nearest convenient blackboard.
Morbo
August 26, 2003, 8:37pm
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Don’t blame me - blame my shoddy American edumacation.
Lobot
August 27, 2003, 12:09am
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I agree that “burglarised” must be an American thing, because I’ve only ever heard it on American TV shows.
This raises the question of whether the Hamburglar hamburgles or hamburglarises.
Another contribution from your Department of Redundancy Department:
hot water heater
A burglar burglarized because he is prone to burglarious action.
It is annoying, but us Brits treat burglar as if it were burgler.
Would an USA person say that a beggar begged, or that a beggar beggarized?
As for friars, scholars, and bursars, who knows what they do?
*Originally posted by Bippy the Beardless *
As for friars, scholars, and bursars, who knows what they do?
Freedom fries,
scolds,
bursts?
Haven’t spotted beggarized yet, but we do have ‘beggared’ which means to turn someone into a beggar, i.e., impoverish him.
moriah
August 28, 2003, 2:33am
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It would be ironic to find out all ironical statements are literally true.
I don’t want my point to be so simple that it’s considered to be simplistic .
You can’t see the harm that comes from that fascist government because of your fascistic predelictions.
This historic occasion will be recorded in all historical annals to come.
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There, now I’ll just let everone’s innate syntax abilities come up with the appropriate rule.
Peacefulnessly, -m
Donchya love it when a Pit rant should have been a GQ?
Interesting moriah the first and third sound and look wrong to my ears and eyes.
For me, the following seem correct…
It would be ironic to find out all ironic statements are literally true.
I don’t want my point to be so simple that it’s considered to be simplistic.
You can’t see the harm that comes from that fascist government because of your fascist predelictions.
This historic occasion will be recorded in all historical annals to come.
sailor
September 1, 2003, 11:18am
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More people who believe assertation is a real word: Caesar’s Ghost , autz , TeleTronOne , Weirddave , lezlers .
I want to assertate for once and for all that there is no such word.
Theoretically, we could have the verbification/nounification process go on forever:
assert - assertion - assertionate – assertionation - assertionationize - assertionationization - assertionationizationize - assertionationizationization –
Okay, I’ll go quietly.