Alien: Earth

I had assumed it was a living cat that just had a lot of trauma from Eyelene ripping out its eye. Guess I need to rewatch that.

Look 26 minutes into episode 2.

I have a hard time buying Slightly and Smee ever agreeing to team up with Morrow. And Morrow was gung ho about exterminating everyone in Prodigy. He seemed to have big feelings about them. It would be quite the 180 for Morrow to turn on W-Y and side with the Hybrids and vice versa.

I’m curious how much of Morrow is synthetic. From the way he talks and the way he fights, he seems like he’s substantially cyborg. Not just the one arm. But we only really ever see the arm and when they tie him up they only focus on restraining the arm.

Did we see any of the other Hybrids using the remote control of computers trick, or is that just Wendy? Why can she do that? And can she control Kirsh in the same way she controlled Atom?

I would expect that Kirsh somehow gets fixed in Season 2 so that Timothy Olyphant has something to do other than laying there. Maybe they put Boy to work and we get some spicy conversation between them as he fixes him.

Yup, was way off on that one.

Slightly and Smee will do what Wendy says. Morrow explicitly told Joe to go save the children because he was going to burn the place down. And when he finds out, as I think he will, with help from Wendy, that W-Y offed his daughter, as I think they did, his target will be the same as Wendy’s - the entire lying structure of The Five. Shit, humanity.

I asked the same thing back when she first heard the Xeno’s vocalizations. At this point it seems improbable that Boy intentionally designed her to be so special. So how? Why?

Yes it was half a cat and I fucking hated that. They later showed a half a human from the debauched party doing the same maneuver. And I fucking hated that too because it brought back bad memories of the cat. Ugh!

It doesn’t really make sense that Eyeball can animate a dead thing, but I like the Arthur character and the actor, so if it means he gets to come back, I will accept Eyeball Arthur.

I think it’s mostly she was given more freedom and put in charge of the other kids. I imagine they could if they tried, but they are neither interested nor encouraged to do so. Remember the only reason she figured out the hacking stuff was by trying to spy on her brother, and Boy seemed pretty surprised the first time it happened. The alien talking happened after she was damaged by the alien and her hearing was affected.

Not quite. She could hear the alien when they first landed at the crash site, although she didn’t know what it was. I think it’s like her hacking abilities, just part of her “specialness”.

I don’t know if being the first imbued her with special powers, if Dame added something to her programming, or if it’s a skill any of the hybrids could gain with enough desire and practice. I’m not sure the showrunners know either.

I’m guessing, of course, but I think Wendy was learning what her new body could do. I do think any of the others could do it if they tried. The timeline is fuzzy from how long Wendy worked to getting new subjects but it had to be months, if not a year. Wendy seemed comfortable as herself, for the most part, as the episodes went on. The kids felt like kids going through puberty to learn what their new bodies can do. They never figured it out or I bet they wouldn’t have been caught and caged. Certainly Wendy let them do it to her.

Thanks for the discussion!

This feels right. And it’s maybe one of the bigger issues with the show.

They probably have ideas about it, but the way it’s been handled in the show really gives the impression that they don’t even care to ask the question, which is aggravating.

I’m pretty much the same. The pseudoscience makes no sense, but I’m glad to keep the character around.

Overall I think the slow is making a huge mistake by having almost no human characters at its core. Allen is about humans fearing this unknown predator that’s hunting them. That’s the heart of the genre, reducing us to prey. But none of the protagonists are people.

I suspect Joe is supposed to be the avatar for the audience, but that didn’t work at all. Maybe the actor didn’t do a good enough job or the writing/editing undermined it. I don’t know, but Joe is a non-factor. Boy is a cartoon villain and he narratively feels subordinate to Kirsh.

This show needs a Ripley and a Hicks, heck I’d settle for a Hudson.

I suppose we’re supposed to care about the Lost Boys but I really don’t. They certainly aren’t the heroes.

Somebody wake up Hicks.

Did you get the impression that Morrow and Kirsh were evenly matched in their fight? Morrow is definitely a hardened fighter with human rage, but as far as the mechanical strength and speed go, were they on par?

This gets at a larger question, are Hybrids, Synths and Cyborgs all operating with basically the same level of technology and mechanicals? In the movies, neither Ash or Bishop are particularly durable. They are stronger, faster and more accurate than humans, but can generally be overpowered by 2-3 people. They also seem to have effectively no resistance to bullets or edge weapons (not to mention Xenos).

We see Wendy kill a Xeno (sort of see) so I guess she might be an upgrade over your vanilla Synths, but we don’t really know how much. Atom definitely handled her before she glitched him.

Morrow seems to be the strongest and his cybernetic arm seems like the most formidable weapon, but unless his legs/back/core are cybernetically enhanced his ability to deliver power should be limited.

I’m probably overthinking it and it will scale however the plot demands.

Boy said something like “there goes 6 billion” when the one hybrid got killed. I STRONGLY doubt all synths cost that much, so I assume they are far better than normal ones. Morrow having a cybernetic arm seems more of a combat enhancement than anything else, and he acts as muscle so that would fit. He technically did beat Kirsh in a straight up fight, but Kirsh got him with a distraction. Atom, being sort of a last line of defense for Boy might be more powerful than a regular synth, but I would imagine Kirsh is just a normal synth like Bishop or Ash.

Pretty much the way Steve Austin worked. At least Morrow’s body doesn’t make ninininini sounds when he exerts effort.

I’d be okay with ‘Eyeball can animate a dead thing,’ but was annoyed by how Eyeball had several dead people to animate in the building complex—but for utterly unknown reasons ventured outdoors, for what had to be many many yards, straight to downed Arthur.

How does that make sense??? Why would it do that? Why would it have an instinct/intelligent plan to bypass a bunch of soldiers and instead go for the ripped-open body? How did it find the body?

It’s just dumb. (Though congrats to the actor on being part of the next season, whenever that is.)

Speaking of actors, the developments for Kirsh mean less bargaining power for Olyphant. If they don’t like the number he demands, Kirsh will be immobile, and he’ll get (at most) a few cameos. If they DO like the number, Kirsh will be like David and Walter: self-healing.

Sucks for Olyphant, really.

Someone up there said of the finale “underwhelming,” and I agree. The entire first season was thinly written:

Corp-P arranges for a Corp-Y ship to crash so P can pirate its contents; the contents are brought back to a private island peopled by a few humans and some little kids put into unwisely-strong synthetic bodies; interactions occur and people die; Corp-Y sends a small force (and next season, a larger force) to get their stuff back.

That’s really all that happened. Ho-hum.

Did I miss an explanation as to why Kirsch seemed to turn a blind eye to Morrow’s scheming with the hybrid? I’d assumed he was secretly in cahoots with Morrow (so their vicious fight came as a surprise).

Overall, a disappointing season I thought, with some highlights. The new alien creatures were good, but given the show was really centred around the hybrids they are a dull bunch, other than some entertaining but inconsistent child-like play-acting. And I was gutted at Ade Edmondson’s android reveal, knowing he wouldn’t get to be an Eddie-Hitler-style eyeball host.

I think includes development costs and the supercomputing enhancements to a human set of memories and personality.

Seemed to be just an effort to capture Morrow.

It looks like it escaped down a drain, not through the hallways.