You forgot to add “come on now.”
I disagree on the “no reason at all”. A moderator sends a PM about a warning, poster asks “why”, moderator answers “explaining why”, poster answers moderator with a thinly disguised “screw you moderator” (I belive the consensus is that Sleeps with Butterflies responded in the way she did to irritate the moderator) - I don’t see why a mild suspension is out of place.
come on now!
Not necessarily, but complaining that the punishment Sleeps with Butterflies received is so unfair is going overboard. IMHO.
I’m going to assume you’re aware that Marley sent several (unnecessary) PM’s in addition to the board’s automatic notification PM. If you want to be precise: no follow up PM was necessary by Marley to begin with. But I understand your opinion that posters should be the responsible parties when it comes to judgment in board procedure. Moderator is a privilege, not a responsibility and Sleeps should have known that she bore the brunt of that.
It’s not a question of whether or not it’s ‘livable.’ It’s a question of whether or not it was appropriate moderation. It wasn’t. Nice try at deflection, though.
And I’m sure you didn’t mean to read more into it than was actually there.
Nor is it even what she said. It’s what you want to read into it. What I read was: ‘enough with the PM’s already.’ Now, considering that the automatic system from the board’s software spat out its own PM’s/emails informing her of her warnings, did you really need to follow those up with PM’s written by you personally? I’m sure you meant to point out that she got 4 PM’s (at least), but it just slipped your mind, right? Because otherwise, it sounds like you’re saying all she got were 2 PM’s and then just flipped out. As opposed to getting at least 4 and telling you to stop.
Arnold, I am starting to rethink this a bit. I think that if a mod tries to do his mod thing, and a poster implies that she will accuse him of harrassment, there may be some cause to give her a bit of a time out. A mod shouldn’t have to worry about that while trying to mod.
That said, I sure do depend on the chuckles I get on the dope to get me through my work day…I hate that a lot of the funny or interesting posters end up suspended or banned or whatever.
… You’re gonna need some bourbon.
**Marley **claims that he was threatened with a false complaint, not that he was irritated. But let’s assume he was. Irritating a mod is grounds for suspension now? Really?
And as to Marley’s actual claim : Where is the threat? Where is the falsehood?
Where did she say she would accuse him of harassment?
I hereby deem Mods Gone Wild II: Return to Molehill Mountain to be the lamest sequel of 2010.
More than anything, I was curious about the nature of this alleged “threat,” because it struck me as highly unlikely that the PM was in any way threatening. Now that I see it, I still don’t see it as threatening, and think **Marley **was irritated by her being snarky, so he suspended her. Biggest deal in the world? Yes… no, wait, I mean no. Silly moderation nonetheless? To each his own.
Damn. You quoted me before I edited, and I used the word ‘implicates’ incorrectly.
I meant to say ‘implies’. I don’t really know that I agree that she implied that. I can see how Marly thinks so though. Don’t bother taking your war to me, though, because I don’t want to see the girl suspended at all. Geez.
It’s not a war. Sorry if asking for clarification twists your knockers. Geez Louise.
I remember several threads in the past with people asking “can’t you send out a PM when a poster gets a warning? How will they know otherwise that they will get a warning”? Now there is the complaint “I’m getting TWO PMs for each warning! The second PM is SUPERFLUOUS!” Sorry, I can’t take that complaint seriously.
We’ll just have to disagree on that then. I don’t think it’s inappropriate.
This is what it says at the top right hand margin of my screen. I’ll bold the significant part.
Welcome, Contrapuntal.
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You really like this whole tactic of minimizing and ridiculing valid concerns, don’t you? Do you work for our Federal Government?
You don’t think suspending someone over saying ‘don’t bother me anymore’ is an inappropriate use of moderation? Good for you. Have a cookie.
‘Take your war’ is just a bit of slang and figure of speech. Geez Louise on cheese.
I posted it.
Poster A asks a mod a question. The mod answers. Has the mod harrassed the poster?
People here already know they can protest anything we do. So if you have a complaint about something a mod does, complain away. That’s not a problem. On the other hand, trying to shut down discussion by making stuff up is not encouraged. I don’t think we have to tolerate people doing what Sleeps With Butterflies did here. It hasn’t been a problem in the past but I don’t expect it to be one in the future either.
It sounds like you think I sent kept sending messages to her until I get a response. I didn’t. She sent me a PM in response to the automatic warning notification, and I responded to what she said. Most warning notifications don’t get answered and I don’t seek any further comment or acknowledgement on those.
Come on Marley. Where in what you posted was the threat. I asked this specifically upthread, and now you duck and weave. Where in that Private Message was any threat to complain. Specifically, please.
A person says that she considers X to be harassment. Is she telling the truth?
She said further PMs would be construed as harrassment. I don’t think it meant she was simply going to be unhappy and not tell anyone. What kind of sense would that make? And no, there is no way that answering a single question qualifies as harrassment.
I dealt with the same two questions in my last post, and this is the last time I’m going to answer them. I’m not going play another round of “Contrapuntal asks the same question over and over because he doesn’t like the answer.”
Two PMs instead of one is a valid concern? Yes, I guess I am out of touch with the latest in the evil doings of the Powers That Be. I’l have to go dig out my latest copy of the Illumaniti Conspiracy - I’ve been remiss in keeping up with that fine publication, what with all the time I’ve been spending flying my black helicopter over your neighbourhood.
No, I don’t think that responding to a moderator explaining “here is why you got a warning” with a message saying “if you keep on replying to my PMs asking you about my warning, I’m going to consider this harassment” is an inappropriate use of moderation. Thanks for the cookie! Chocolate chip? Keep 'em coming!