I will grant the other linked photos of Alyson are hotter- but she didn’t look that thin in the newest FHM shots- what really got me tho were those totally killer eyes.
According to Miss Manners, unsolicited advice is one of the major rudnesses that a person can commit.
To those criticizing the people who are saying that the woman in question is too skinny:
Why only criticize those people? What about all the people saying how “hot” she is?
Is objectification only bad if you find someone unattractive, but acceptable if you think they look hot?
Sorry, I’m married. 
I know this isn’t the Pit or GD, but I have to agree that “eat a cheeseburger” is just about as offensive as “put down the fork”.
This is especially true if the person has trouble gaining weight (something I cannot relate to at all) and hates the way they look or someone who is anorexic. It’s hurtful.
Sorry, I’m married.
I know this isn’t the Pit or GD, but I have to agree that “eat a cheeseburger” is just about as offensive as “put down the fork”.
This is especially true if the person has trouble gaining weight (something I cannot relate to at all) and hates the way they look or someone who is anorexic. It’s hurtful.
See, I’m not only a member of the fat-bashing offenderati!
[sub]I’m also a client. Tee hee.[/sub]
When someone purposesly poses nearly naked in a national magazine, it’s silly to find comments on ther body offensive. The only reason they are there is for you to ogle them.
Comments like “Eat a cheesburger!” or “Put down the cheesburger!” might be offensive when yelled at random people walking down the street, but how can it be wrong to make comments like that on people who are being paid to display their bodies?
I personally don’t care who finds her attractive or not, skinny is not everyone’s cup of tea, I know.
There’s just no need to be rude about it.
I don’t see when objectification came into the argument. I personally don’t know anyone who would object to being seen as attractive, in any way… I do know a lot of people that would be hurt by insensitive comments implying they were grossly unattractive.
Cool, my first double post ever!
Because you’re indirectly insulting/hurting me, because I look almost just like her, and anyone else that reads/hears your comment and happens to look like that. I don’t see what being paid has to do with it at all. It reminds me of the customers that come in the store where I work and abuse the employees, because they have a chip on they shoulder and think “Well, they’re paid to work in customer service…”
Revtim,
I suppose in a case like someone putting it all out there in a magazine, it’s a little diffferent. They are going to receive lots of comments (good and bad) about their bodies. People want to feel better about themselves by making derogatory comments about people in magazines. It’s just human nature and I understand that. It doesn’t make it right, but it’s understandable at least.
But, I didn’t make it clear that I was saying that it’s hurtful in the general sense, not just in this case.
In case you were addressing me in particular.
jeez, the eat a cheeseburger comments aren’t intended to insult naturually skinny people, rather they are a critcism of the Hollywood culture that says an actress/model/whatever is worthless unless she is malnourished and has all her ribs and vertebrae showing.
The fact that every single one of these Hollywood women looks like a holocaust survivor is Wrong. Women with normal healthy builds are being forced into starvation diets because they don’t get work if they don’t and that is mysoginistic and unhealthy. Charlotte Church the English singer, she was going to get an acting part and they told her she had to lose weight! WTF! she has a healthy naturally curvy body, she isn’t fat by any stretch of the imagination. I wish I was as thin as she is! But to the powers that be in Hollywood you don’t get work unless you look like a famine victim…that’s wrong and I, for one will speak out against that kind of body facism any chance I get.
As far as naturally thin people like Jinwicked goes, that is a whole separate issue! We are talking here about women who aren’t naturally skinny being forced into a body shape that is unnatural and unhealthy for them. That is what my concern is about. No offence to people who happen to be that weight naturally and for whom that is healthy and natural. Wether or not Alyson falls into the first or second catergory, I don’t know, but it woudln’t surprise me if it was the second. I hate the ‘you must be able to count every one of her vertebrae’ culture in Hollywood, hate hate hate it. Let women be their natural shapes! be that skinny average or large! Enough already!
Two entirely seperate issues that have gotten confused, that’s all.
Umm re reading my last post I would just like to clarify that my ‘ribs showing’ and ‘famine victim’ analogies are not intended to be hurtful in any way to naturally thin people like Jinwicked . When I use those analogies it is to refer to people who are not thin naturally who have been forced into a body shape that is wrong for them.
For people who are thin naturally, that is right for them. It’s the un naturallness of it all that gets me. People who make sarky remarks to naturally thin people are jerks, same as those who say them to fat people (and I say this as an overweight person myself, not that it has ever happened to me thank god)
I’m just saying that the issue of jerkiness towards people who are naturally thin has become confused with the issue of women who aren’t naturally thin being starved due to the Hollywood body facism. I hope I have explained it right 
For me Thin is a Feminist Issue. (naturally thin women excepted!) it’s something I feel very strongly about. I would feel the same way if naturally thin women were being forced into being fat…I hope I have put my point across right.
I wasn’t addressing you in particular, Nutty Bunny, in fact we pretty much simulposted, so I hadn’t seen your until after I wrote mine.
I just wanted to point out that if Ms. Hannigan didn’t want people commenting on her body, then she probabaly would refrain from exposing 99 percent of it in a national magazine. It’s pretty silly to say that comments on it are offensive, when they are all but explicitly asked for in this situation.
But in general, yeah, telling someone they are too fat or too thin is pretty rude, IMO. And I’ve personally heard both.
Revtim,
It’s like Carnie Wilson on Howard Stern last week (after posing for Playboy). She was offended when he was saying she could stand to lose more weight. But what did she expect him to say? He has a regular bit where he finds fault with perfect-looking women, fercryinoutloud.
So, I agree–they’ve got to take the bad with the good if they want to show it off–fat or thin.
While i might have been the first person to use the term, what else would you call the photo-spreads in those pretend-serious, soft porn men’s magazines? This whole thread was apparently started for no other purpose than to get more people to look at pictures of a young woman in lingerie. Any woman having her picture taken for a layout like this invites comments on her physique. And i think the same about guys.
As i implied before, and as Infectious Lass said, there is a difference between naturally thin people and people who starve themselves to look thin. Of course, it is surely the case that at least some of the thin women we see in Hollywood are naturally that way, but a quick glance at the rest of society suggests that not all of them are. And i’m sure most people are familiar with the cases of celebrities who start out fairly average and end up looking like skin and bones. Don’t tell me all those people are just finding their “natural” weight. And when photo-shoot after photo-shoot holds up almost identical body types as the ideal, i think it’s fair to become rather cynical about the whole process.
And the way you use the attractive/unattractive binarism implies that someone can be objectively attractive or unattractive. I might personally find someone unattractive, but that doesn’t mean very much if you find that person attractive. Sure, some people have characteristics that make them more likely to be found attractive by large groups of people, but tastes and fashions change over time and place.
Would you, for example, draw a distinction between someone who said, “She’s way too skinny for my taste. I find people that thin extremely unattractive,” and someone who just said, “She’s way to skinny. Look at those ribs”? Surely someone as artistically inclined as you are has something to say about the issue of subjective tastes versus objective quality?
astro, I’m not sure what your point is. I say that I don’t consider it attractive to be able to count a woman’s ribs, and you counter by posting images of a woman I’ve admitted I find attractive, and whose ribs in fact are not showing. How is this puzzling?
gex gex said:
I don’t know as I’ve never been in that situation. If you had read my last post to jinwicked on page 1 then you’d understand more about where I’m coming from.
I think everyone in this thread is missing the big picture. Or rather, the picture of Emma Caulfield. God gravy, woman! Gold lame short shorts? Gold lame is never, ever sexy! Don’t tell me you didn’t get that memo!
As for the rest of the pix, although I normally pick Allison Hannigan over Charisma Carpenter, Charmisa’s pictures are ten times hotter than Allisons. Love that sun tattoo.
She used to be so sexy, she’s lost all her nice curves. I hope she hasn’t developed an eating problem.
So, I go on a business trip, sans computer, with this thread at ~20 posts. I then come back and find the thing around 80. My first thought: The Offenderati have found this thread.
Heh. I wuz right. 