Like many others, I probably wouldn’t have said anything about the driving and might have said something about the ticket.
It pisses me off if someone expects me to pay more attention than they are paying to their actions. Persons who rely on me to alert them are going to regret it because I am rarely paying that much attention. Put me on alert that I am supposed to remember something and I generally can.
Is that so wrong? Well, basically, yeah. To an extent, at least. You can’t rely on other people to make your life easier/better/happier. You have to do all that stuff yourself, and if you’re lucky you can find someone to share that happiness/good life with in the process. Expecting someone else to be responsible for you, or take care of you when you are perfectly capable of doing so yourself is a little unreasonable. If you love and respect your partner, you should do everything in your power to be responsible for yourself and make sure you are a person worthy of their mutual love and respect. This means not expecting them to fix you.
With the caveats already expressed here (walking off a cliff, drinking poison, etc.) I think it’s a sign of entitlement and narcissism to expect other people to pay attention to you all the time and act as personal warning alarms every time you are about to act like an idiot. Friendly reminders are nice, but to expect them and then get pissed off when you don’t get them is really ridiculous.
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To the OP, you have described 2 incidents that YOU recall. However, as a person who is married to someone who makes those types of bonehead moves on a constant basis, have you ever thought that she’s just tired of having to be on constant alert for the next bonehead experience?
My husband cannot drive from Point A to Point B, forget Points C & D, without constant, and, sometimes, not so gentle, reminders for getting around in a city he has lived in for 10+ years. – Dear you need to be in the left lane, remember, the exit is on that side. No, you can’t take that exit, it’s one way in the opposite direction of where we are heading. Dear, you passed our exit, yes it really did have a big green sign above it with the name of the street we were looking for. – Honestly, sometimes I have to take a moment when we get to our destination to let the blood cool.
Maybe she’s just tired of being on watch and just wanted to sit back and enjoy the scenic route. You drove a couple of miles out of your way, big deal. Although when I did that, we drove 150 miles in the wrong direction. If you were that preoccupied, you should have let her drive.
For the ticket, you zoned it, why couldn’t she have done the same?
And really if you are basing her “I thought you knew what you were doing” response as proof she knew you were being a bonehead, you’re way off. What she really meant was “I wasn’t paying attention either, and you aren’t going to blame this shit on me.”
Well, according to his reports of what she said, yes. Perhaps he is not a reliable witness here, but all we have is a message board so it seems to me we might as well take what he says at face value.
Because he asked, and she said so, per the OP.
Anyway, my opinion, she didn’t commit any major sins. It really does sound like a basic difference in styles and personalities. I’d much rather someone let me know when I’m doing something boneheaded - but probably some people don’t share that trait. Either you can talk about it and come to some sort of agreement that she’ll point stuff out when she notices - and you’ll have to remember that she won’t always notice - or else you’ll have to get used to her not correcting you.
I don’t think there’s enough information here to come to any larger indictments of either partner’s personality. To me, her behavior feels a little callous, but to her, perhaps correcting people on small points seems like nagging.
I agree. I think that was a very unfair summation of the situation.
Nevertheless, I don’t think he has to be willing to accept the negative interpretations and groundless psychoanalyses a couple people have offered up. Disagreements are one thing; some of the assessments of Cagey Drifter’s personality that I’ve seen here seem quite tenuous to me.
That’s a very poor interpretation of what happened.
Which would be perfectly reasonable if there was any evidence that Cagey Drifter expects her to devote her attention to watching him all the time. However, there is not, and as such, this seems like quite the overreaction to his post.
Um, maybe you should drive. Because that sounds sort of annoying.
“Guest,” eh? I think you’ll fit in just fine around here.
Cervaise, my husband said something like that the other day - I had forgotten when we were supposed to be at a family dinner, and he said that he’s the one who remembers what happened, and I’m supposed to be the one remembering what is CURRENTLY happening, and you know what? He was right! We have indeed split up the brainwork along those lines.
cazzle, my husband is not expected to answer every time I ask something, but he is expected to grunt that he heard, or I WILL ask again, and he is not allowed to get mad when I ask again, as the grunt of acknowledgement is agreed-upon. A grunt is not too much to ask.
I’m with the [b[Count**. Sounds like your girlfriend should think twice about this relationship. And, by the way, it’s not like that bart or muni ticket is invalid - you can still use it. So her silence cost you all of 30 seconds of your life, and you still feel the need to whine about it and blame her on a public message board. You might want to think about anger management classes, or something.
Id get over it…espically if this is someone you really care about… If not mabye re-evaluate the relationship but if this is someone you love, get over it…its really small stuff…espcially the first one. Dont loose someone you love to BS on your part.
I’m very absent-minded and I understand your bewilderment. But having someone around who will serve as a reminder for us just encourages our dependence. I’ve come to rely on my husband too much.
Please don’t fault your friend for not reminding you. That’s really a very healthy approach (so my therapist tells me) unless the situation is harmful or dangerous, of course. You’ve been given no reason to think that your friend would knowingly stand by while you did something to endanger yourself. That is totally different.
You always have a right to your feelings, of course. When someone else’s behavior troubles you, try talking it out with that person – but in a very non-accusatory way. Above all, don’t make assumptions about her or his motives.
I am with the “SO was being passive-aggressive” crowd. Especially on #2. I think people are deliberately misunderstanding you or twisting your position slightly so they can lecture you. (Or else they have a great deal of trouble with reading comprehension and nuances.) On #1, I would be less annoyed, but that’s just me, because I have a terrible sense of direction. Because of that, I almost never correct anyone about the route they are taking, as I always assume (and am usually correct) that they know more than I do about the route. Yes, she should have your back. Yes, her actions were bizarre.
My husband has a solution to just this problem. He doesn’t assume I’ve heard him unless I acknowledge him. This used to piss me off and I would snap at him (of course I heard you!) but then I realized how much better it was to respond if I heard him so he would know when I didn’t. Saves on lots of snapping at each other.
As for the OP’s situation, I would have said something both times. When he drives, I navigate. If I see he’s on automatic pilot and he’s going the wrong way, I say so. If he forgot that public transportation was free, I would say so before watching him pay for it, probably by saying, “hey isn’t it free today?” I don’t see that as mothering, just realizing that everyone gets distracted sometimes, or goes on autopilot.