Am I right to insist on a closed jacket?

very funny sweetie. Children aren’t robots and they naturally do the exact opposite of everything their parents tell them to do. It gets worse as they get older. Just wait until she’s 13.

Sure. You can make her fasten the jacket at this age. No one denied that. That doesn’t mean you should, though.

It just seems to me that you are reacting way out of proportion. You are angry at children for unfastening their jackets when you didn’t even tell them not to, and then you use the “let you off on that” like they did something wrong when there’s no reason to think they did. They’re young enough not to realize they drip and cause a mess. Try explaining to them that it makes a mess - then make them clean up the mess.

Also, as others have suggested, try finding out why the children are unfastening their jackets. If it’s too hot for them, then a lighter jacket might be the solution.

All I get from you is “I am the Master and you will obey me.” Or read my mind when I don’t even tell you what to do/not do.

I didnt tell them not to unfasten the jackets because I thought they would use common sense and KEEP THEM FASTENED because it was pouring down with rain!!

Maybe the jackets are still too hot to be worn fastened while playing in combination with the clothes they were wearing underneath.

But why are they out playing when it’s pouring down rain outside? “Don’t go outside when it’s pouring rain” seems to be the more important rule to enforce.

But it’s not common sense, really. A child that age is unlikely to think about or realize they drip and cause messes - their brains aren’t generally there yet. So from their perspective, they get wet. No big deal, doesn’t hurt anyone. Still not sure how a jacket keeps them from making a mess, though, if it doesn’t cover their legs.

As Acsenray said, it can still be too hot for jackets when it’s raining. Definitely. Rain just makes it muggier sometimes. I can recall just walking from the parking deck to to my office in the rain with a jacket on once in spring/summer and deciding to not do that again because it too hot and stuffy and uncomfortable. And that was a normal-paced walk that took about 5-10 minutes.

And there’s even less reason to keep it done up if it’s not raining - there’s no extra mess at all and it’s just making the child uncomfortable for no reason.

It seems to me that you’re disassociating the problem with the fuss. If the issue is that they’re dripping, tell them not to drip. If your issue is that clearly they’re wet and cold… Surely they can decide that for themselves? If it’s unpleasant to be wet and cold, they learned not to do that.

So why did you ask the question in the OP? Was this supposed to be a pile on against a 6-year old?

Actually, let me dial it back a bit. I forgot that it’s your child we’re talking about. Scratch the “pile on against a 6-year old” part.

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No.

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+1.

Make sure she CAN fasten the jacket if she wants to. Practice with her a few times if you’re not sure. Explain that while you prefer her to have it zipped, if she chooses not to she needs to know how to fix it if she gets cold.

Just be glad she comes home with the coat at all. Mine lost a number of jackets in their school years. We took to buying the cheapest ones we could find at the thrift store; the next step would have involved them paying for it themselves.

Well, if she is forced to zip her jacket, then the flower she is carrying home will get crushed, and the pedals will fall off. And we don’t want that.

Joan Crawford would never have allowed Christina to not keep her jacket closed.

Oh, your the mother I don’t let my kids play with their kids because they think they get to raise mine. You might not let your daughter off with that, but I wouldn’t let you off telling my daughter off. Your rules may apply to your daughter, they don’t apply to mine when she is at the park.

Its water, they get wet. Its June, and even in Scotland its warm enough that they won’t freeze. They are not descended from the Wicked Witch of the West, they don’t melt. On the other hand, me telling them I don’t care if they zip up or not, then getting yelled at by the crazy lady - that could cause damage.

So, if the OP is Joan Crawford, that makes Dangerosa who, Sissy Spacek?

Isn’t the purpose of wearing a jacket the comfort of the wearer? If zipping a jacket makes the wearer uncomfortable isn’t that contrary to the whole purpose?

She CAN fasten her jacket, I have seen her do it on many occasions, she just likes getting it done for her.

Anyway, the school have told me that on 2 occasions this week, she had to inside during break and lunchtimes because she refused to zip her jacket when asked by her teacher.

The reason the teacher asked her to zip her jacket AND put up the hood was because he didnt want her coming back into the classroom with her uniform and hair soaking/dripping over her work.

I will probably get criticised for this but I told the teacher to zip it himself instead of asking because ny daughter likes going outside during break/lunchtimes, he said that he totally understands my request and PROMISED to obey me.

Why are the kids going outside in pouring rain?

Also, what is this “asking” you keep saying? Tell her to zip it up, and tell her why, it’s easy:

“Zip up your jacket and put your hood on or you are not going outside. I don’t want your wet hair and clothes dripping all over”