Am I too late to talk about Wolves of the Calla?

I know I saw a thread on DT 5 earlier, but I’ve searched on Wolves and Calla and even Roland and Callahan to no result.

I’m glad books 6 and 7 are done, because I found book 5 to be a bunch of waiting around for something to happen. I enjoyed seeing Father Callahan again, and the build up of the stolen children and the “roont” twins was heartbreaking, but the battle seemed rather anticlimactic. Except for two casualties on the town’s side, the battle seemed very one-sided.

I liked the references to other books, especially the “sneetches,” the Harry Potter model. Very slick.

Still, it seemed a very long buildup to what was basically a quick, uneven battle. I found the Susannah/Mia plotline more interesting. And the Salem’s Lot reference at the end was just weird.

:frowning:

Guess so.

I’ll keep you company :slight_smile:

I didn’t like the Dr Doom robots, the lightsabres, the sneetches, plus the Stephen King book. It totally threw me out of the story and I couldn’t get back into it and enjoy the last few pages.

Random thoughts:

  • Jake at the end was great. I’ve always love the “coming of age” stories, and Jake is turning out to be a great gunslinger-in-training.
  • I loved the Mia/Susannah plotline as well. I found that the pregnancy forshadowing was applied a little too heavy handed in the last 2 books so it wasn’t a surprise.
  • The backstory of Father Callahan was about 30 pages too long. I suppose if you were really into Salems Lot then it would be interesting, but to me it felt drawn out.
  • I liked the inclusion of Tower and Dapneau.

I know that Roland brought back 300 rounds for his revolvers in “The Drawing of the Three” and Jake only had a box of shells for his father’s 9mm. I wonder how their ammo situation is now?

I have not read this yet, but am a long time Dark Tower fan. That said, I have been increasingly disenchanted with King and am not sure if I will bother to buy/read this one. Can someone give me comprehensive spoilers to aid my decision?

In book 5 I most took note of Roland becoming what I’d call an “Aragorn figure.” You know, cranky/crusty exterior slowly reveals hidden depths of character and kindness?

It’s interesting that while most post-Tolkien fantasists have chosen to repeat the Frodo-figure (everyday person thrust into terrifying events, blah blah), King went in a different direction to focus on the character who is both fully prepared and suicidally determined to fulfil his destiny.

I finally picked it up in hardback for 8 bucks at a used-book store a few days ago and finished it yesterday. I certainly enjoyed the book, although it reminded me a lot of Roland’s adventures in Mejis: A bunch of people who are in conflict waiting for the time of the conflict to come to afront. But, I suppose the parallels are purposeful, since both have to do with aquiring one of the Wizard’s Rainbow balls.

Some of the plot elements were fairly predictable, especially who/what the wolves were. It was so obvious (especially after the ka-tet’s discussion of how odd it was that there could be dozens of uniform gray horses in a world were threaded stock was extremely rare) that it was almost irritating at how long that information was held back after Eddie’s talk with Grand-pere. However, I didn’t have any clue why they’d take twins and then only one of the twins, until Eddie had his flash of inspiration. I wonder if Roland’s ka-tet will have to deal with the Wolves’ masters in the next book.

Quite frankly, I did enjoy the surreal element of Father Callahan trying to convince himself that he’s not a fictional character, although I’m not fond of all the references to other books in King’s works (The Stand, Hearts in Atlantis, Salem’s Lot, etc.), since I’ve only read the Dark Tower series (and the Green Mile) and have no real urge to read the others.

I didn’t find the battle anti-climatic. It was just one of those amazing times where things actually went according to plan, which is rare in books. I thought Roland’s idea to decieve basically the entire Calla was a stroke of genius. And I loved the irony that what’s-his-name’s overriding desire to save his son, lead to his loss.

There were many elements that further strengthened the hypothesis that the Dark Tower is Stephen King, and that the reason that everything has “moved on” is because he’s retired. It’s an interesting idea, but in the back of my mind, I constantly wonder how much of this was in King’s head when he started and how much he’s been making up as he goes along, since he wrote about a world that had moved on very early in his career. Did he forsee the end of it way back then? Did he have the Crimson King in mind or did he only add him after writing The Stand?

The whole nineteen thing was entertaining, but at the same time, it also gave me an impression that the reason that “19” was happening was because King was writing it and, as Eddie felt, that they were just characters in a book who’s author wanted to emphasize something by having that number re-occur way too many times to be just coincidence. 99.

Adding things like “sneetches” and references to Harry Potter are kind of distracting, like they don’t belong in the world and even if they did, who the hell would turn what would probably be a kid’s toy into a flying explosive? I didn’t feel that Dr. Doom references were out of place, though, since his character’s been around for a while and had been in Jake’s and Eddie’s when.

Anyway, I did enjoy it a lot and read through it pretty fast. I eagerly await the Song of Susanna.

Spoiler for the next book (which I read in a book review…)Stephen King actually writes himself into the book as a characterI’ll probably like the book a lot anyway, but that’s lame.

Hopefully in execution it won’t be as bad as it sounds, or at least a very minor piece of the story.

Re: thread title

Fageddaboudit. Some of dese mooks is still jawin’ about da Illiad. Da FOOKIN’ Illiad!

Actually, it doesn’t suprise me, since he’s kind of already done it in WoC, what with the sign in the window of Manhattan Restraunt of the Mind and the upside down title in the cave.

I thought that was bad enough…

I still think he maybe can pull it off OK, I think he’s a great writer. But it’s just a bad idea.

For those who have a Media Play store nearby: last Friday their bargain table had the first four books in trade paperback for $3.99 each. Even though they were selling them for full price on the regular shelves for a total of $71.00. The only difference is that remaindered copies have a black line drawn on the bottom.

Why? Clive Cussler does the same thing, and it’s usually amusing

I’m witholding judgement until I see where he’s going with the self-referential stuff. I’m curious and apprehensive at the moment, but he might pull something interesting off. Or it might suck.