America : Shut yer hole about being the "Land of the Free".

I’m still waiting for an explanation on why the Spanish are at fault and not the damn dirty Vikings. Why are you avoiding the question? Is it because you’re intellectually dishonest, or because you’re racially biased against the Spanish?

We can talk about this, if you’d like. Was there a Spanish-related trauma in your childhood? Feel free to share.

Alright then. See that you do.

Carry on.

Seriously though, I’m still waiting for someone to tell me why the US is supposed to be such a bastion of freedom, when slowly, law by law, your freedoms are getting it in the ass - and without lube, if you live in Alabama, apparently.

I won’t mention abortion rights, or better, complete lack of them, in Ireland, if no one else does.

Oh wait, this is the Pit, so I suppose I will.

Wasn’t it obvious that I meant it in a spirit of kindness and international, cross-cultural co-operation? :smiley:

And you haven’t answered the question posed by me and many others: what freedoms!?!?!?

What freedoms do we not have here that you have, that somehow, when all is tallied up, make America an ‘unfree’ nation while Ireland (or Sierra Leone) is entitled to that moniker?

Bullshit. Cite? Hmm??? I’m calling you on this one. :mad:

Because deep in the depths of TV land, on a little-known station called TV3, there exists a hideous yappity program called Ireland AM, with that annoying blonde one, that pudgy fella, and the orange-faced Alan Hughes (who I met in a restaurant in Glasgow. Nice bloke actually).

Today, Alan was outside drinking mojitos at 7.45am and then they had a fashion parade. If that isn’t yappity, then I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS.

Actually Ireland has an effective corporation tax rate of 12.5%, for IFSC companies. A rate that is being availed of by many, many US Corporations.

Oh, and Ireland is not a Tax Haven.

Otherwise your comments about the “freedom” of the US are well taken.

Oh, so you’re just another guy who lives outside the U.S. and loves to turn his nose up at the eeeeeevil superpower.

Suck my huge American cock.

I guess someone should also mention that “Land of the Free” is not some official motto of the U.S., and the Air Force does not fly streamers bearing those words over your “football” stadiums or drop leaflets on Dublin proclaiming it.
It’s some words at the tail end of our national anthem, which practically nobody hears anyway because by the time you get to that point of the song (which is generally played only during athletic contests), everyone has started loudly clapping and cheering to encourage the singer to finish up already because we want the game to start.

Achilles would probably be getting his tendons in less of a twist if he stopped sending out his dry cleaning to the U.S. I hear that the turnaround time is really crappy, now that they’ve mothballed the Concorde.
By the way, is it Ireland or Wales that’s an island? I always get them mixed up.

Finally, someone said what **had ** to be said. :stuck_out_tongue:

Nobody mention abortion. Every woman has a free right to this in Ireland, just as long as they make it to nearest boat to Britain.

Where can’t you buy lube?

The OP is pretty worthless. The only freedom I can think of that I’ve lost in the time since 9/11 is my freedom to carry my Leatherman Micra (pocket knife) on airlines. And while that does sort of piss me off, it’s hard to equate that with the entire country “going to shit”.

One of the top movies in the country is a documentary calling the President a big poopyhead. Tell me again how the Feds are trampling on our freedom of speech?

BTW, I’m in Massachusetts and the reason you can’t buy beer here on Sunday is because of the Puritan influence – in other words, hoary leftover tradition from the Old World. But I can go over the border to New Hampshire (Live Free or Die) and buy all I want, so my distress over the Blue Laws is strictly minimal.

But seeing as what’s really fun about this thread is the bashing of each other’s culture, I offer you: Ireland – Land of the Free

Which, of course, no one expected.

Eonwe - how about fingerprinting every visitor to the US, when they arrive ?

That’s reeeeeeal free.

Sorry, all of those tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breath free who swarm here every year tend to skew the results.

Kerr-iste! Do we have to go through this bollocks every time?

Why is it that the majority of the educated US public seem to have gleamed their entire knowledge of WWII history from movies?

I’d also like to concur with other’s estimation of this thread and OP. Pretty worthless xenophobia all round.

They swarm to every western country, Ireland included, you fucking prick.

Achilles, educate thyself

http://immigration.about.com/od/usborderscustomssecurity/i/IssueUS_VISIT.htm

BTW, how’s that heel feeling? Still giving you trouble?

I think you’re being fucking obtuse, again. It’s not the “LOTF” for fucking undocumented fucking visitors. It’s the “LOTF” for her citizens. So, let’s go voer this one more time:

In Ireland, you can drive around drunk, drink “anywhere”, “anytime”, buy sex toys in ANY location, and feel free to take America’s assistance even though we have a sizeable group who are poverty stricken.

In America, we ask that people entering our country from certain locations be fingerprinted, you can’t drive around like a drunken menace, a few more redneck/overly religious states restrict where, when, and how you may buy sex toys and booze.

That’s your thesis for why we’re not a “free” country? That’s a load of fucking bollocks and you know it. You’ve got an anti-america boner, and if you don’t give the keyboard a rest someone’s going to take the wind out of your sails before this thread is through. If you had one clear, concise, accurate, non-hyperbolic(hyperbollocks?) thing to say, you’d fare much better.

I’m personally shocked that you’re one of the barely 75% literate population. Teaching you to read and write was an obvious waste of fucking time.

Sam