American Horror Story: Season 6 (open spoilers)

I, for one, am glad it’s back. There isn’t much on TV that can actually make me uncomfortable, but I think AHS can do it, and it does it in a way that, while often lurid and awful, involves a fairly deep level of insight into characters who can be evil to the point of monstrosity. It can be scary to watch a person transform into a monster, or maybe more so to recognize the humanity in someone you always took for a monster. The line blurs. It turns the gears and I guess that is why I tune in.

Well here we are at Season 6, “My Roanoke Nightmare”. The basic premise seems already familiar: a couple decides to make a life change, they visit the country and discover a fabulous but creepy rural mansion on acres and acres of forested land. To get it they have to win it at auction, and their competition is a crew of unfriendly, ragged hillbillies. They tell what’s-his-name straight out that “you don’t want this house”, but apparently he does, and his sense of superiority over these people seems to become a part of the transaction.

They’re a biracial couple. She is a yoga instructor cliche (I hope there turns out to be more to her than new age relaxing), and he is a fairly successful traveling ad rep or something. The husband is hypersensitive about his blackness, always projecting racist or classist motives onto a world that doesn’t seem to be motivated by those things, and therefore generally missing the gist of events. After a series of scary things happen to wifey while hubby is away (hailing human teeth was a new one, and for a squirming second I could really feel how crazy this woman felt like she must be going), hubby brings in his sister to watch over the home and maybe report back on whether crazy shit is happening or wifey is hallucinating. The verdict? Crazy shit.

If I try to analyze every detail of Episode 1 this OP will go on forever, so let’s point out that the writing (and the production) is lush. There is quite simply a lot going on. Maybe the entire season is encapsulated in this first episode and we just don’t yet know how it all plays out. The sister is a less refined, more cliched black person than the hubby. In a way, all of the characters have an element of cliche about them, which is a disturbing aspect of the general population if you think about it. The cliches of yuppie racially paranoid hubby, alkie and slightly loony but hurting yoga instructor, gritty and smart but screwed up her life with drugs sister, plus ugly dirty deformed threatening supernatural hillbillies is at once an obvious recipe for conflict and also a tidy batch of subjects about which maybe I’d just rather stay in denial rather than confronting them over a season of horror television.

So you see, I find I can really sink my teeth into AHS. This OP only scratches the surface of all the observations I could make. Why isn’t all TV this good? Does it have to be horror-done-right to present this sort of challenging artistic aesthetic? And, is that a manbearpig squealing hideously out in the forest at night? I suspect that not everyone survives, considering the narrators are actors portraying the “real” characters in a documentary drama done, low-key humorously, in the style of Married to a Murderer. It is derivative and even copycat in certain details (I think these writers are in love with scenes from The Shining of the ghost girls in the hall), yet in a way that lends an intense uncomfortable familiar immediacy to the drama. I’d go so far as to say this horror drama reaches all the way to the epistemological. Bravo.

TL/DR: :eek:

We were huge fans of AHS until Freakshow; we dropped into “still watch it but not as in love” that season, and never finished last season (and weren’t heartbroken about it). I don’t know what happened last season that put us off so completely, but I have high hopes that this season will draw us back in. We’ll see!

I watch the last couple of seasons of this show and watched this first episode.

The big thing in this episode is that when the characters are talking about what happened in the past, they’re played by one set of actors, but in the flashback scenes in Roanoke, they’re played by another, different set of actors. I’m not sure what they’re doing there. Is this supposed to be an unreliable narrator thing? And given the setting is Roanoke, is the show going to reference the lost Roanoke colony?

It is funny, that there was all the mystery on what the theme would be, but the format of it being a “based on a true story” real crime re-enactment thing is weirder than the actual apparent theme. And it is funny to me thinking about how the “My Roanoke Nightmare” show has a much higher budget and production value than any true crime type show in our universe.

I liked the first episode, didn’t love it, but I’ll keep watching. It wasn’t as crazy and campy and over the top like previous season openers, I guess because of the change in format.

I’m guessing they’ll play around with the format, and not just have the “real” people telling the stories and the “actors” playing it out. Some sort of unreliable narrator thing would make sense. But also considering how crazy AHS has gotten in previous seasons, I halfway expect that one of the characters dies in the story, then their narrator says “and that’s when I became a ghost.” Because as just straightforward “real people” telling about the crazy thing that happened to them, it takes some of the tension away, since it appears that they all survived whatever crazy events, and don’t even appear to be too traumatized.

It definitely appeared that the character that the wife hit in the car (I think it was Kathy Bates) and the people she stumbled upon at the end were in old-timey clothes. So I’d guess it’s either ghosts of the Roanoke colony, or descendants who keep to themselves and have evil traditions, or something like that.

Yeah, Freakshow was not my favorite either- it is the only season of this show that I just never got around to finishing. As for Hotel, well, I saw reports that the ratings for that one just fell off a cliff as the season wore on, but I came away thinking maybe it was the best season of all. I thought it seesawed between hilarious and hideously, morally wrong, which created a madhouse atmosphere that fit the story very well, on top of the whole thing making me really want to know where the story would end up.

On top of that, and maybe it is because I am starting to get cranky and older, but I find the Steven Spielberg style of The Wonderful World of Children adventure movie to be kind of grating. Hotel involved plenty of kids too, but ultimately they proved to be not so clever and mostly got munched by vampires. As it should be :smiley:

As for this one, I really wonder where they are going with the format too. Points for coming up with something “original”, once again, right off the bat. I wonder if they will turn out to really be “actors”, or if it is going to be, “well, they fed us to Manbearpig and that was awful, but then as ghosts we persuaded them that it was all a big misunderstanding and they found these very similar bodies for us to inhabit, and let us go! Wierd, huh?” With these writers, it could be anything.

I really liked Hotel. Lady Gaga isn’t really an actress, but her part was pretty well written to suit her strengths. The introduction of her and Matt Bomer’s character was one of the best intros ever. And Denis O’Hare’s character was amazing and touching.

But it does feel very different to go from Hotel to Roanoke, with hotel starting off with vampires and music video like scenes and high drama/camp, compared to the more relatively grounded season so far. I’m interested to see how it keeps things going, and if it will stay more serious and less campy, or if it will be like other seasons and eventually be throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks.

It’s clear to me that all three principles survive, because we see them recounting the story to the camera. The only part I find distracting is that the actors playing them in flashback are like 10 years older than the principles recounting the story. I get that the reenactment parts are the heavier lifting, but I wish the roles were reversed.

I was pretty disappointed by the premiere, the promos were way more interesting. I really dislike the conceit that we are watching a true crime re-enactment show, as that means everything we see at the house are “actors” (in the show universe.) So that kinda takes away all the drama and tension since it’s being played as fake. I’m already tired of hearing everything narrated by the “real” people.

I’ve seen every season of AHS so I’ll stick with it to see what happens but I really hope they change up the format somehow…

Usually this show is awful but in a way you can’t stop looking at the trainwreck. This time it seems like it’s just awful in a boring way.

What this guy/gal said. Ain’t nobody in any real danger since somebody else is sitting in a chair after the fact talking about it.

Maybe I’ll actually be able to stop watching at last.

It appears that I’m in the minority because I found the premiere way more interesting and engaging than previous seasons. In previous seasons, I ended up FFWDing through much of the episodes. Freak Show and Hotel in particular I ended up watching maybe 10-15 minutes worth of each episode. This premiere, by contrast, I was riveted the whole way through.

I may be biased because I love found footage horror movies, which this isn’t but it’s at least reminiscent of the atmosphere of one. In any case, I’ll take this over another interminable Jessica Lange song any day of the week.

Lets see, there this biracial couple who have a problem in the big city and they move to the back wood hills of North Carolina, where they find a creepy old mansion for sale real cheap.
Of course, there is a bunch of inborn hillbillies ( or what ever they are), that don’t want them there. You can, almost, hear the banjo’s playing.
Let’s count the cliche’s. Maybe, this show will get better, but I won’t be watching.

I forgot to mention that the boyfriend ( husband ) is on the road a lot and the police won’t help.

I’m looking forward to this season, I’m ALWAYS in it till the end. (even the last whole season of True Blood, which was so very very awful, but I certainly couldn’t just ‘stop watching’. How can you do that?? I have to know how it turns out.) I think each episode is going to be different, with different characters and maybe time periods, and will all tie in together at the end. I’m looking forward to it. Cliched or not.

I’m undecided. The main characters are interesting and three-dimensional, but the re-enactment thing is weird. It’s hard to take the story seriously.

Of course, the writers know that. So I hope there’s an impressive plot twist that will make their decision appear sensible.

I’ll keep watching, if only because Lily Rabe is so purty.

Just saw a commercial for episode 2, and it’s the same characters and storyline.

Hasn’t that been true for the whole series? Isn’t that kind of the point?

I mean, scary killer clown isn’t a cliche? Creepy hotel?

I gave up on Hotel after watching all the previous seasons, but I thought I’d give Roanoke a try. I’m not giving up on it yet, but I’m not optimistic.

Pluses:
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[li]like the documentary format - it has potential for interesting storytelling (thinking of True Detective’s first season)[/li][li]Angela Bassett[/li][/ul]
Minuses:
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[li]some gut-wrenching dialogue (all throughout, but the scenes between the sisters-in-law were especially bad IMO)[/li][li]there are going to be like 6 or 8 different monsters/villains again, right? I hoped with a shorter season there might be fewer, for a change, and maybe some coherent storylines that develop over time! But this episode already had what looked like about four monster/villain stories introduced (depending on how separable the hillbilly groups and Kathy Bates’s character are). I knew from episode one there was something wrong with this season.[/li][/ul]

Dear god, AMEN to this.

I agree, it’s kinda the point. Every season is like someone took a spooky story told around a campfire and greatly expanded it. It’s always a mix of horror movie tropes and American urban legends all combined.

Loved the premiere. Loved the acting and the docu-drama format. I thought it was fresh spin on horror and really kept my interest. Looking forward to this season.

Did anyone else notice one of the Hillbillies trying to buy the house was Chaz Bono?!

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Ha! I thought Jessica Lange was awesome throughout the series, though I see what you mean about long inspirational songs in heavily accented English sung by an aging double amputee. Try to remember the good times. Remember that scene in Coven when she meets with the board of the witch-killing corporation, and she’s like, “Nah, I think my axe-murdering jazz ghost boyfriend will hack you to pieces now.” That was drama! :smiley: