Really?
Someone thought she’d make a good Bond theme song?
One word: Goldfrapp.
Bye Amy.
I don’t like Amy Winehouse at all. I hate her music. Why?
Because she grew up in a middle-class household. Her problems are completely self-inflicted. I have respect for people with effed up childhoods like Kurt Cobain etc who succumed to drugs. But just exactly what was Amy Winehouse trying to escape from? She seemed to have a pretty good life by all means before she got immensely famous.
Really it should never have gone this far. I don’t care if it’s illegal, but her parents should have lured her home and locked her up a-la trainspotting until she got clean. What the hell is going on here?
Secondly, what the fuck is going on with the English justice system? First Pete Doherty and now her?
Anyway, someone needed to be a bit proactive with her a LONG time ago. One wonders if she’ll ever manage to live a normal life again. If someone had possibly physically prevented her from going down this path earlier, she might have possibly had a chance. But now? I mean it must be SO hard to kick all of those habits. Really it’s messed up.
And her father says that it’s a good idea for her to perform. I think that shows you exactly why this happened.
Emphysema isn’t “reversable” as the publicist claimed, but if managed from the early stages like where Amy Winehouse is, you can still absolutely live a pretty good life. It’s not like cancer or MS, where it gets worse and worse until you eventually die.
I don’t expect her to change her lifestyle, though. She’s determined to kill herself.
To all the Smid bashers, serious question:
Do you really believe drugs do not contribute to creativity (and I use that word broadly)?
Who was more creative Van Gough or Norman Rockwall?
Do you really believe Hendrix could have been HENDRIX without the drugs that killed him?
Creativity (by artists) is nothing more than the expression of a brain on “drugs” critiqued by a sober person.
I battle sobriety every day. But because of family obligations I now operate in a field of limited expression (designer). I know first hand the difference in success between me-sober vs me-“fucked up”. And I gotta tell ya, I miss the money and the lifestyle.
Think about this… If Ernest Hemingway had never taken a drink of alcohol in his life, would you know his name now?
I agree 100% w/ your assessment. By chance you ever listened to the Bill Hicks comedy introduced in Tool’s AEnima album (the song 3rd eye to be precise)? That’s what set me down my own path to figure that part out. 
On the Amy Winehouse note however, yeah, that bitch needs to cut back or she’s dead within the next 2 years.
I’ve exhausted my google-fu on Hicks. Help a brotha out.
I do hope Amy get’s it together. I lost a great friend to suicide.
Sorry, went to bed before I could respond last night.
Here’s the Tool Song, I don’t know the name of the stand up routine the bits and pieces were from. Tool - Third Eye
The Bill Hicks quotes end after the first 1:30 or so, but the remaining 4:30 seconds after are still a kick ass **Tool ** song. 
I understand what you’re saying, but can you agree that smid’s idiotic ramblings basically dismiss any artist that doesn’t do drugs?
That’s pretty fucked up if you ask me as very few artists have well known vices and I have to assume that at least some of them must be clean.
Uh, no one here is denying that drugs can enhance some artists’ work, nor claiming that drug-influenced work is somehow less creative than sober work.
Hmm…now that’s a coinkydink. We’re running a smoking study right now in which alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency is one of the exclusion criteria.
Or worse, because this is real. :eek:
“I am a legend, get these people out of here. I want to take drugs.” -A.W., in the Daily Mail
Yes, but the worst part is that, in my opinion, there’s nothing particularly good about her music. She does have a good voice, but that’s about it. She’s not doing anything particularly new. It’s obvious though that her whole persona is built on being this fuckup. Her song, Rehab? All of them seem to be about what a basket-case she is.
If she were to die, why would anyone particularly care much about her? It’s not like she was Kurt Cobain. Kurt Cobain (kind of forgotten in a way now) was certainly much more important. Nirvana pioneered grunge, which essentially defined Generation X. They were huge, culturally. They were huge generally. Amy Winehouse is just some messed up chick who is always in the tabloids for being strung out.
Hell, even Britney Spears spent a good five years just being a popstar before becoming a screwup. That somehow makes her story even more legitimate than Amy Winehouse’s
What’s there to think about? She chose to live this live and capitalized on it financially. Turns out she bit off more than she can chew.
Kurt Cobain grew up in a middle class household too. The economic conditions of her parents are not relevant.
So which is it, her fault or her parents’ fault?
I just want to add to the general discussion that if one’s personal upgefuckedness adds to one’s creative abilities (which I think is true of some artists but not all), there are ways to be very fucked up without using drugs.
Are you dense? Middle class is simply just a qualifier. In Cobain’s case it’s the only thing that he had going for him.
from wikipedia:
Cobain was screwed up by his parents divorce. The point I was making is that Amy Winehouse’s family is by all measures a family one would want to have. Cobain had problems.
I think it’s tragic, but then I’d think it was a tragic state for any young woman, talented/famous or not, to be in.
She’s an addict. It’ll likely kill her. I think that’s tragic.
No, I don’t believe that for a second. In fact, drugs and alcohol generally serve to shorten the creative life of artists in general. Dasheill Hammett, for example, could have written a good deal more if he weren’t in the bag all the time; his masterpiece “Maltese Falcon” was written during a relatively stable part of his life.
I could cite many, many examples (Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin form the rock world, Bix Beiderbecke from the jazz world) the list goes on.
After looking at 8 pages of Amy Winehouse horror pictures on Google, trying to find any where she looked attractive to me, I found exactly one - I think it was a high school (or English equivalent) picture.
