An Enterprise (NX-01) timeline

The official word from Paramount

No Eugenics Wars, but it does have events crucial to TNG eps and the movies!!!

Canon is OFFICIALLY fucked.

Show me what year it says the Eugenics Wars do not happen. It doesn’t have WWI or WWII, either. It only mentions WWIII briefly because it’s important to the next event, First Contact.

It’s a timeline of events in Exploration History, smart guy. :stuck_out_tongue:

Eugenics Wars, as established in TOS’ Space Seed occured in the 1990s.

This list did include WWIII, aparantly arbitrarily. :stuck_out_tongue: on you :wink:

So, they set up events for TMP and several TOS and TNG eps, but omit the events leading to STII:TWOK, STIII:TSFS, and STIV:TVH.

The EWs were a MAJOR event in ALL the other timelines given by Paramount.

Even if you want to argue about exploration vs historic events to be included in an official timeline, this one is still VERY incomplete.

If they can fit the left out events somehow, I’m ready for them. Bring it on, baby!

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Now… you guys discuss.

Okay, I admit I don’t know much about TOS history. I know they made up a screwed-up timeline and they were stuck with it. So tell me, what kind of exploration events do they leave out of this timeline?

–the hell?!

So, according to the “official” timeline, Zefram Cochrane was only 33 years old at the time the Phoenix was launched? What, did the guy have progeria or something?

I’m sorry, I could accept James Cromwell subbing for the late Glenn Corbett in the movie, but my belief can only be suspended so far. Faster-than-light travel, humanoid aliens–these ideas, I can run with. But don’t try to tell me that James Cromwell is still in his early thirties! I mean, come on, Paramount!

Actually, it’s listed as a Scientific breakthrough timeline. Genetic control would be a major development.

That’s my main beef. Because without Khan, alot of stuff doesnt get to happen.

Maybe it’s just incomplete.

Nothing about Gary Seven saving NASA, or Kirk and co saving the whales in 1986.

Nothing about the Horizon either.

So… maybe I over reacted. Blame Viva los Twages for my mood swings.

I still say TPTB eed to do what they did with TOS,TNG, and the movies: Authorize an encyclopedia that inclueds ENT.

I don’t see where it’s listed as a timeline of scientific breakthroughs, but whatever. I agree that it’s not exhaustive.

However, Cochrane’s age has been established long ago. He lived through a World War, and a lot of the planet was irradiated; give him a break for looking old. :slight_smile:

What did I do?? Was it the ball or the mp3?

It was listed as that on the previous page.

Here

Oh well… can’t expect me to make total sense in one post while I’m on meds, right?

RIGHT?!?!

Well, alls I can say is, I hope James Cromwell isn’t reading this thread.

“Yes, Mr. Cromwell, your face could be that of a young man…provided he was exposed to a global apocalypse and bombarded with radiation.”

How did I miss this thread?

Question :

  1. What does this have to do with scientific breakthroughs? Or exploration?

  2. What was the point in including this at all?

  3. Has this been mentioned at all on Enterprise? 'cause I know my Trek history pretty well and this doesn’t sound the least bit familiar.


By the way, you should read the Eugenics War by Greg Cox. It’s not canon but it does have an interesting take on it.

The Australia thing has me flummuxed, too.

This timeline MUST be fictional. Get a load of this entry:

Since when did the September 11th terrorist attacks galvanize anybody to put their differences behind them? If anything, it galvanized the people of the U.S. to hate everyone with a towel wrapped around his head.

Hey, lay off. It was a scientific breakthrough, okay?

Okay, this timeline was not written by the brightest isolinear chip in the grid, if you know what I mean. I wouldn’t worry about anyone destroying canon based on it. However, I think I understand why they put that United Earth Government entry in. It’s like the proto-UFP, which, not really a milestone in exploration, is sort of indicator of societal progress. Kind of the “first nation in the New World” concept.

The Aussies kept boomeranging on whether or not to join, and set up a Kangaroo Court to give trial to those who wished not to join. I cried Crocodile tears.:frowning:

NoClueBoy:

While acknowledging the timeline’s errors and omissions, it appears to intend to include only events that would have been public knowledge. The Gary Seven incident, Kirk stealing the whales, Kirk schtupping Edith Keeler, Ben Sisko subbing for Gabriel Bell, all are things that the general public wouldn’t have known, and therefore wouldn’t appear in an official timeline.

Yeah, I can buy that.

But previous timelines have always been very detailed and all inclusive. Even going back to when Sargon’s people left their physical bodies.

Perhaps I’m just asking for too much.

I’m calling Roddenberry up on the afterlife phone and asking him what he thinks about this…

Although the glaring absence of the whole Gabriel Bell incident itself from the timeline does seem odd.