An official Survivor Jumping the shark and Boston Rob's a Jerk thread!.(Spoiler's)

I’ve had a bad day, so I’m responding to this. I didn’t get to watch Deadwood or the Sopranos last night because I was gagging while I watched Survivor. I set my VCR and taped both shows, which I will be watching shortly, as soon as I get off work. I do not want either show spoiled for me so guess what?

I’m not going to open those threads.

Amazing isn’t it? That little thing they call self control. Have you e-mailed CNN and yahoo and any other web site that posts today’s headlines to flame them for posting the winner of Survivor on their front pages? In past seasons, when I’ve not been able to watch the Big grand finale of something, you know what I do? I do not turn on the TV, nor log in to a site that posts such headlines… because I don’t want that stuff spoiled for me.

Note that in the title of this very thread is the word, “Spoilers.” That means important details will be discussed and if you don’t want to learn them here, you’ll have to refrain from opening this thread until you’ve seen the episode.

We went through this last night with the Left Coast of the US and I simply cannot understand why I have to accommodate you. When I miss something that’s important to me, I don’t expect you to accommodate me and hold my hand.

Sheesh, people. Grow up. Just a little.

Please.

Which, as I’ve already noted, would automatically rule Rupert out.

If you’re nice to those who stroke your ego, but petty and resentful to those who don’t, then you’re not really all that nice of a person at all.

Yikes! Make that… “number ONE retailer.”

And I even previewed the damn thing. :smack:

READ HIS POST AGAIN.

It doesn’t say a thing about not putting things in spoiler boxes. It says DON’T PUT SPOILERS IN THE THREAD TITLE.

Sheesh people, get a clue.

ArchiveGuy from this and other posts of yours you have a tendency to look at everything Rupert does in the worst possible light. Don’t be hating. He is a person with flaws just like everyone else, but there is still something about him that makes people like him. He is big, strong, sometimes loud, but has a vulnerability that people connect with.

Anyway, I’ll take a stab at some of your points.

When did Rob throw a hiss fit when he didn’t get his way? (Note Rupert bitching about the “injustice” of Rob & Amber winning the cars on a reward challenge which he was the worst at) Guess you’d have to find something where he didn’t get his way. Rupert articulated what everybody else was thinking. This is one of the reasons people like him, he is honest about his feelings, good and bad.

When did Rob treat someone like shit simply for disagreeing with him? (Note Rupert tearing Jerri a new one for having the audacity to question his Hole-in-the-Sand, aka Worst Survivor Shelter ever. And he never even apologized for the way he treated her) I’ll agree, it was bad. But you don’t know if he apologised to her or not. AFAIK, there didn’t seem to be any animosity between them after that.

When did Rob complain to other people when they didn’t behave the way he wanted them to? (Note Rupert bitching about the candy) see point above.

When did Rob talk down to others when they didn’t kiss his ass? (Note Rupert getting upset about the fish) He worked damn hard to get all that fish. Brings them to camp, nobody says thanks or offers to gut or cook the fish. They just sat on their ass waiting for him to feed them. Maybe he got tired of it. It’s not like he kept all the fish, just took one and cooked it for himself.

You are crucifying Rupert for minor complaints during confessionals. Rob was just awful during them. Said horrible things about everybody.

Rob builds a paradise compared to Rupert’s shithole, yet Rupert calls Rob “lazy” when Rupert moves into town. Why? Because Rob isn’t Rupert.

Everybody worked hard for that challenge because it was a reward challenge. Rupert probably worked harder than everybody else on it too even though he wasn’t successful. But disregard that incident, it happened before Rupert joined their group. Rupert put in the hours every day for the benefit of everyone, Rob worked hard when there was something in it for him. Another reason why people like Rupert.

Rob galvanizes his team to victory after victory (usually as the dominant force) without ever once blaming people or pointing fingers, while Rupert’s “leadership” (the shelter, the boat) leaves his team SOL yet never takes responsibility for his team’s failings.

Perhaps you missed the first epsiode where Rupert said he wasn’t going to be the leader? He tried it in his first outing and it didn’t work. Why aren’t you complaining about everybody else’s leadership? Recall Ethan cost them two perhaps three immunity challenges by boneheaded play.

**Rupert made no effort at alliance-making outside of Jenna and Rob/Amber. He didn’t win a single immunity. He only got as far as he did on the sheer generosity (and strategy) of Rob & Amber. And yet, he would whine about all the other people not being as worthy as himself.

Rob may have thought he was craftier and smarter than the others, but Rupert always implied he was a better, more “deserving” person. Rob may have backstabbed more people than Rupert, but that’s because Rupert was content in nestling in the warm comfort of his self-righteousness while Rob did all the real work.**

I think you are putting lots of words in Rupert’s mouth. He complained about Rob being arrogant in the confessionals, but others said much worse things than him.

The only version of Survivor Rupert has tried to win is the one in his own head, where if he works hard enough, is a big enough provider, and is a “mentor” (king of condescension) to all his “little” teammates, they’ll bend over backwards giving him the money out of sheer gratitude. Rob never suffered from such a delusion, and though he didn’t win, he came closer than Rupert ever could.

You could make some of these arguments from the last survivor, not this one.

I don’t have anything to contribute, I just feel that
IT’S MY TURN TO USE ANNOYINGLY LARGE FONT.

I don’t understand…there are no spoilers in the thread title. None! Where are the spoilers in the title (other than the word “spoilers”)?

There are no spoilers in the thread title! Get over it

Jesus. We already have to cater to the West Coast people who can’t control their itchy mouse fingers by spoilering everything inside the thread. Now we have to cater to the Europeans who are put out by the mention of a player that everyone already knew was playing in this game…

I agree with the OP in one way, and that’s that Rob is a jerk. He was an aggressive, manipulative, dishonest, backstabbing ass. Fortunately for him, those are qualities that will usually take you far in Survivor, though seldom all the way to winning.

Lex is a hypocrite who can’t or won’t see that he did exactly what he complained about Rob doing. His reasoning seems to be that this is different, because this time he was the victim.

Rupert turned me off in his first Survivor when he stole from the other tribe. His childish behavior since then has done nothing to endear him to me.

I wasn’t really surprised by All-Star as a whole. I assumed that the winners and those who were known to have actively manipulated others would be targeted early, and that the people who did least well originally would likely last far into the game. Rob and Shii Ann, neither of whom originally made it to the jury, lasted deep into the game, and the players who won or were known to be master manipulators got bumped early.

I’m less and less happy with how much Jeff Probst has been involving himself in the gameplay. Last night it appeared that Rob was ready to step off and give Amber immunity, and Jeff warned him off. I don’t really believe for a minute that it would have made any difference, but it just seems tacky for Jeff to be telling a contestant that they’re getting played during the most important challenge of the game.

I voted for Amber to get the second million because the question was who deserved the million, and she was the one I thought played the best game overall in All-Star.

Thank you!

Oh and FTR I would sooner step foot in hell before I’d step foot in Walmart. I am also a Democrat who would vote for every single person to ever appear on Survivor before I’d vote for Bush.

Sorry for the hijack Phlosphr this will be my last post in this thread.

Dogzilla and slu. Read this carefully. I couldn’t give a shit how many threads about survivor there are. I don’t care if they are with or without spoiler boxes. I don’t read the threads. I was just reminding people that some of us follow this show and don’t live in the states so don’t put the result in the title that’s all.

I could avoid the board but why should I? Ethan was just voted out last week so I’ve still got a bit to go as there’s still a good few left. What do you want me to do not read the board for a month just incase some asshole doesn’t know the rules and puts a spoiler in the title of a thread. I live in Ireland so don’t see news talking about survivor. I try and dodge major US news sources during the run and sometimes even click a link in a thread and look away asking my workmate to have a look to see if there are any survivor related details on the page.

I was merely reminding you guys. That’s all.

I came back here coz I knew somebody would be moaning about my post. Thanks for not disappointing me.

Me too. Including Johnny Fairplay.

Well, I’m sorry for my tone yesterday and the annoyingly large font. I just don’t see any results in the title of this thread. What giveaways are there in the title, please?

OH for fuck sake why did I start this?

from my original post. The one you obviously read so carefully.

Survivor fans would be reading this thread so I simply put the message in this thread as it was the first one I saw.

Again, read his post. He didn’t say there was a spoiler in the title. He wanted to make sure people don’t start another thread that DOES have a spoiler in the title.

C’mon folks, is it really too much to ask for everyone to read for comprehension?