And my daughter announces... [that she's bisexual].

The OP has not posted here since 2006, so you’re unlikely to find out anything.

I know this is an old thread. But I’ll leave it open. Even though the OP is unlikely to respond, someone else might have something worth sharing.

Would a thread started today garner as many “Don’t worry, she’ll probably be safely heteronormative soon enough” posts, I wonder.

Even though this post is old, I’m going to mention that yes, such phases exists. I know because I went through one. And it was very genuine attraction and sexual interest, not attention seeking or trying to be original, for reasons I explained in more details in the equally old thread even sven opened and linked to 12 years ago. “Going through a phase” isn’t the same as “pretending”, as so many people in this thread seemed to assume.

In any case, I believe that sexual attractions are more fluid than generally assumed, even in our more liberal times (for instance I have issues with the currently common assumption that people are just born homo or hetero, period), and quite significantly dependant on social norms and expectations (in society at large or within whatever sub-group you happen to belong to) and life experiences.

Well, I expect that today we’d be able to point out that you can be gayer than a Pride Parade, get married to a same-sex partner and have children. Oh wait, I just did! :slight_smile:

FWIW, it’s still tremendously complicated to have kids as a same-sex married couple in the US. For most couples, it involves thousands of dollars of legal fees on top of the ordinary expense of child-bearing. And, of course, in most places you can still get fired from your job for marrying a same-sex spouse.

So while we can see the other side of the mountain, we ain’t there yet.

Yes - this is incredibly important.

When I responded in this post my daughter was five.

She is now sixteen. She has been a lesbian, bisexual and is currently identifying as asexual. The only mainline sexual identity she hasn’t claimed is hetero. I just keep letting her know that where ever she lands (or doesn’t), its fine with me.

Her female friends have almost all gone through iterations of sexual identity. This generation seems not to see sexuality as binary or static - heck a lot of them see gender as a fluid state.

I think fewer of them will end up in a monogamous hetero relationship than my generation, because they are now given socially acceptable options that don’t involve an opposite sex spouse, two point five children, a dog and a white picket fence. However, I still expect most of them to end up in hetero relationships - despite all claiming to be bi, my daughter and her former girlfriend are the only ones to have a public same sex date.

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Where do you live that this is anywhere near normal? I have daughters between the ages of 15 and 19. And not only have none of them ever expressed any kind desire remotely like anything of the sort, neither have any of their girlfriends, and as far as I know not a single girl of any of their schools (2500+ pupils) have done so in a way that resulted in much talk – and you do hear an awful lot of gossip with teenage girls in the house.

And yes, 13yo is too young to subscribe to any outlying sexuality. At the very minimum she should wait untill she’s of a sexual legal age. There’s a reason we don’t let kids have sex in general, they’re not emotionaly (and physically) mature enough, and they’re not able to handle the consequences.

When she says she’s bi, are you sure she means bisexual and not bipolar?

I believe that one’s sexual orientation is a choice, and if true, then this seems more of a matter of a child’s exploring of their sexual options. This is all new to them and maybe we as a society should allow this experimentation.

I grew up in an era and place where it was the father’s duty to beat the living crap out of a daughter if she even winked at a boy. It was awful …

This is a pretty mild event in the grand scheme of things.
Imagine being a parent, and walking into your sons room. Inside you find him having sex with another guy, worse than that, he’s the mare being used like a woman. Those are those parental moments where the advice to always keep a cyanide capsule near a back tooth comes in handy. You see that sight, and just bite down. End it all and stop the pain.

/I heard a paraphrase of that from adam carolla on loveline years ago.

If that’s what you feel, you’re clearly bisexual. But not everyone is.

In places with wealthier populations, especially progressive leaning wealthier demographics, young adolescent and college age females (and to a significantly lesser degree males) embracing and trying out alternative lifestyles (or proclaiming that they are) is fairly common and not something people are really doing much pearl clutching about. The parents might not be thrilled, but realistically they figure (mostly correctly) that it will work itself out and demonizing the kid is not the solution.

It was certainly pretty normal in my relatively poor, immigrant-heavy high school twenty years ago. I suspect Rune isn’t quite as current on teenage sexuality as he likes to think.

Also, Rune, if you can’t be gay until you are 18, who do you take to prom?

That’s a curious diagnosis. As a Christian, I believe in Free Will, so that all our behaviors are by choice. If this helps, what I feel is an erection when I wake up dreaming of butt nekked wimin. I always figured it was because I was a hetreosexual and never gave anymore thought. Enlighten me please.

This non sequitur simply marks your participation in this thread as useless.

When did you choose to be heterosexual?*
When did you choose to be right- or left-handed?

*(You contradict yourself, of course. If you wake up with an erection having dreamed of women, you are not choosing your orientation; you are accepting the way you are wired.)

I was interested in girls when I was a boy … although the AIDS outbreak in 1981 had a lot more to do with my sexual behavior … marriage seemed safest.

Right or left handed? That’s a run-time decision. I chose not to learn to write left-handed, more practical to learn to swing a baseball bat or hammer left-handed.

If false, does the child have no options? Either way, our society should be fair and equitable. The issue at hand is the child becoming sexual active, I think gender issues just muddies the waters and pretty much unnecessary.

Upper-middle class Copenhagen, in a part of town known for being social liberal (by Danish standards) and relaxed. No, I think it’s probably some weird US thing, where you get overinvested in sexual politics like the way you tend to sometimes. More driven my political passions than passions of the heart. It’s like for some reason you have a problem with finding a reasonable middle of the road, and swing widely from one side (chastity balls) to the other (lesbian transsexual underage boy-girls). But it’s probably nowhere as mainstream as described above, and exaggerated by internet lenses.

I like to think I know what I hear, and that is what I wrote of. If there’s a sudden rash of girls (& way underage girls) going lesbian/asexual/pansexual/whatever-sexual without it having resulted in much talk or gossip then that’s entirely possible. It’s also possible that the moon is made of green cheese.

Prom is an American thing. Do 13yo girls have proms? I thought it was for high school exit. Like at 17-18yo. 13yo girls, and young children in general, should not be thinking of partners for a dance in a way that locks them down with a sexual identity. If that is a problem, then they can stay at home.