Please submit your definition of “mutiny” for my consideration. Otherwise, I will have no idea what you are trying to say.
How’s this definition work for you?
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Any person subject to this chapter who–
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuse, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
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What have got against free speech?
Doesn’t democracy means everyone gets a chance to vote on every issue?
Mutiny: Open, organised rebellion against established authority by those who are charged with enforcing it.
Edit: Better yet, what Smapti said.
Do you think the sergeant asks the privates to vote on whether or not they want to storm the hill?
When did the Mayor of NY conscript soldiers to police the streets of NYC? Is the NYPD subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice?
Are these officers not creating a disturbance in concert with each other, with intent to override or usurp lawful authority?
Regardless if you call it mutiny or a “work action”, it doesn’t reflect well on the mayor to lose the support of law enforcement.
The mayor should not be worried about having the support of the police.
The police should be worried about having the support of the mayor.
Still a freedom of speech issue. Private sector jobs vs military enlistments. This isn’t rocket surgery.
Their freedom of speech does not immunize them from the city’s freedom to disassociate itself from people who oppose its policies and its government.
Pretty much agree with you, especially the underlined part which is what I intended to post when I first opened this thread. I don’t think the mayor should have injected himself into the Grand Jury’s decision, but that’s a far cry from what these police seem to think-- that the mayor is anti-police. These back-turning police are acting like they’re above and separate from the general public.
Maybe you should tell that to the mayor? He could probably use a little encouragement right now.
Maybe you would prefer it if the mayor fired all of the police for daring to have an opinion that didn’t agree with the mayor’s? I’m sure there are plenty of “hands up, don’t shoot” protesters who would apply for the job (until they found out they were applying for an actual J O B.)
You’ve got to be joking. Turning your back on the mayor means you don’t respect, or like, the mayor. Political free speech. It has nothing to do with opposing policies or opposing the government.
The mayor is their boss. They have no right to be openly disrespectful to their boss. Frankly NYC cops can go fuck themselves. When I lived in the city I was the victim of crime on multiple occasions including a fucking gun in my ear at the Prospect Park subway station. I think they spent a grand total of an hour investigating all the crappy things that happened to me. They did nothing at all when two neighbors and a relative tried to get my mom stop being physically and verbally abusive to me. Meanwhile, I once got a ticket from one of them when I basically fell over on a subway car while trying to hold on to a pole as the car lurched forward. The idiot cop thought this klutzy sixteen year old was trying to destroy public property so he gave me a ridiculous lecture and a ticket. Overpaid, useless idiots most of them.
They do not have jobs in the private sector. They work for New York City. The mayor of New York City is their boss. They are being insubordinate to their boss.
I’m uncertain as to why this is so difficult for you to grasp.
How many “hands up, don’t shoot” rallies have you attended this year?
It’s very simple. Police officers are NOT U.S. military personal (which was the issue being clarified). Police officers are not subject to UCMJ.
Police officers still have a right to political free speech and there is nothing you can do about that.
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Or do only the pigs deserve respect?
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AFAICT not unless they resist arrest.
Regards,
Shodan
And their employer, the mayor of New York, has a right to fire them for insubordination, and there is nothing you can do about that.