This may sound crule, but this is my opinion. If animal activists want to yell at us and start protests and riots about someone having a steak fr supper, then they are retarded (figuratively speaking). To want meat is only human, we are ominvours, not herbivours. It’s not like we are pulling wild animals from the bush who have lived a glorious life, and then slaughter them mercilessly and then eat them. No. We breed and kill our own cattle and livestock. And if the activists say that anim,als have feeligns and can suffer just like we do, i think the animlas in our breeding grounds would want to be dead anyways!
I’m just saying that animal activists are making a big deal over nothing. It’s human to eat meat. anyways…
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Agree that PETA and other, similiar organizations are mostly wasting time and newsprint with their various and shrill screechings over domesticated animals used for food and clothing. An animal, captive born and raised such as a cow or pig, and used for our benefit has no impact on the environment. This is good.
But when I hear of these idiots actually realeasing a quanity of, oh say, farm mink or fox into the woods, it is a minor, ecological disaster. These suddenly over-abundant, small preditors, IF they survive for any length of time, quickly wipe out the local rodent/herp/invertrabrate populations that other, indigenous species require. And then, they too, begin to starve. Tossing out lab rodents, as I heard one moron say she wanted to do, would be just as bad. With preditor pressure off, the much better adapted indigenous species would breed like bacteria, causing great damage to the area’s plant life, including food crops.
The part that makes me chuckle is (hehe) what if they were successful? Where in the hell would we put a gajillion, rapidly breeding cows, chickens, pigs, meat rabbits, and so forth? Hmmm. Thinking about it, maybe it ain’t so funny after all. We’d all have to quit what we were doing and pick up a shovel.
Every time I hear of more PETA lunacy, I wonder how even slightly intellegent people could buy their nonsense.
Reading back, this looks a lot like a hijack. Humble apologies.
That’s the single dumbest argument I’ve ever heard in favor of raising and eating animals. I think I’m going to become a vegetarian out of pure embarrassment.
Conditions on many commercial opporations are deplorable, especally the among the veal producers. There’s a great deal of room for improvement and that’s where these assorted dipshits should concentrate their efforts. Then, I’ll quit calling them dipshits.
That’s what real omnivorous animals do. I don’t have much of a problem with hunters, though a somewhat fervent animal rights advocate myself. If you want a tasty meat feast, which I don’t fault you for, then go out and earn it. Yeah, hunting with guns makes it a little too easy, but at least the animal gets to live a full life up until its demise. That’s what anti-animal folks don’t understand when they make their arguments like “animals eat each other in nature.” Sure, nature is harsh, but it is heaven on earth compared to factory farming. You can’t even compare the two. Factory farming is physical, psychological, and emotional torture. It is a living nightmare.
Our point exactly.
Yes, it’s human to eat meat. It’s also human to go to war, murder, rape, and steal. Human does not always equal good or right or moral or even sensical. If you want an ideal, how about humane instead of human.
sknkxkxkx…snickerchuckle BWAAH HAA HAA!! HAA!!! I’m sure that captive born animals magically don’t eat food which has to be grown on a farm, requiring all the typical water and fossil fuel expenditure inherent in modern agriculture. I’m also sure that they don’t produce any waste whatsoever. Nope, damn efficient these new farm animals we have. No shit to take care of.
I don’t have much to say about this. Sure, it’s usually not an ecologically wise move, but much depends on the circumstances. In many areas, predators are already severely depleted anyway, due to, naturally, human interference. These predators could, imaginably, fill an ecological niche. I’m still not totally supporting this practice, but I can see another side of this coin. And of course there is the bottom line of the fact that these farmed animals shouldn’t be farmed anyway. Fuck fur, whatever happened to thinking, compassionate human beings?
Animal rights activists didn’t create this situation of millions of extra animals. Arguing that since that one rather idiotic solution to this situation (releasing all farm animals) would cause ecological bedlam, therefore we should continue our inhumane “food” production, is just plain boneheaded. The livestock business created the problem, and there are other ways to solve it. How about we just gasp stop breeding the farm animals, and maybe even eat off the rest of them, and divert all the resources we pour into meat production into something more worthwhile.
I don’t want to hear about fucking PETA anymore. You can’t judge the animal rights movement by PETA any more than you can judge restaurants by going to McDonalds. “Why do all restaurants have such greasy shitty food? Why these hard plastic seats?”
The point is that as things are now, agriculture is fairly well balanced–grain is grown, fed to livestock, and the waste is disposed of mostly as fertlizer and some going back into feed, believe it or not. The fact that the enviroment is suffering is not due to a single cause.
However, there is a lot that can be cleaned up in animal care on the factory farms and not a few private farms, and here is where these activist shitheads should concentrating their efforts.
And I will make what comparisons I see fit. Thus far, I see little difference among these organizations. They are all trying to solve a problem by balooning it.
The further point is that while stupidity got us into an enviornmental mess, further stupidity will not get us out.
I agree. While I disagree with PETA’s stance on many points, and other animal rights groups, there seems to be a new pit thread started every 2 or 3 fucking days on what is essentially the same topic.
Ever heard of methane? Ever heard of global warming? Look them up. Cow farts are raising the temperature of the earth. The point that PETA is making, which you are failing to grasp, is that instead of feeding the grain to a cow, you could feed it to…people. No, it wouldn’t taste like a steak, but maybe the polar ice caps won’t melt.
Whether you agree with their mission or not (clearly you don’t) it would be stupid for PETA to clean up the livestock farms where they raise cattle and what you so charmingly referred to as “meat rabbits,” since they are opposed to the entire concept of raising animals as food. It’s rather stupid of you to complain that they aren’t fulfilling a mission they never set out to do in the first place. “Why hasn’t the Catholic Church cleaned up my drinking water!?!??”
Name a single organization other than PETA to which you are referring. Still thinking?
I’m not an activist, but all the other people in the building are and always try to get me to jion their marches and things. Good luck to them, but I’m not a vegetarian or hate leather, so leave me out of it.
Nice people otherwise though, so I can’t say animal activists suck except when they get into proseletizing mode.
