Another 'I'm not' Gay Republican Goes Down for the Count

[Mr.Moto]

@TokyoPlayer

But what was the reaction for the Nixon thing?

Nixon resigned after it became obvious that he couldn’t count on the support of Republicans in the Senate to shield him from impeachment.

[Mr.Moto]

@Zebra

Clinton accepted being disbarred in return for having Paula Jones’ appeal dismissed?

Really?

No. Separate issues. The disbarment was pending before the Arkansas Bar - referred there by Judge Wright. As part of the final settlement of the Independent Counsel investigation, President Clinton agreed to a five-year suspension of his license.

[Ca3799]

I think I saw a list on Mike Rogers blogspot where he reported that 17 or 18 of the last political outings were Republicans. Ouch.

[askeptic]

Originally Posted by Mr. Moto
Rather a simplistic summary of the events, isn’t it? It leaves out the fines for contempt of court, the disbarment, and the financial settlement in return for the dropping of the appeal of the suit’s dismissal.

@Mr. Moto

No. Separate issues. The disbarment was pending before the Arkansas Bar - referred there by Judge Wright. As part of the final settlement of the Independent Counsel investigation, President Clinton agreed to a five-year suspension of his license.

Hmmmm…

[Bridget_Burke]

@Mr. Moto

No. Separate issues. The disbarment was pending before the Arkansas Bar - referred there by Judge Wright. As part of the final settlement of the Independent Counsel investigation, President Clinton agreed to a five-year suspension of his license.

How many different ways are you going to say “Clinton got a blowjob”?

[Cervaise]

@begbert2

@marshmallow

Indeed. Apparently, some right wing Christian fundamentalist men (and their wives, I guess) seem to view homosexuality as a major temptation which must be resisted with all your strength. They seem to think that it’s a common experience for men to have to fight the urge to have gay sex nearly every day.

Well, for some of them, it apparently is.

Joking aside, this actually makes a fair amount of sense.

RABID RIGHT-WING LOON: “We have to resist the gay agenda! Man cannot have sex with man!”

EVERYBODY ELSE: “What do you mean, resist the gay agenda?”

RABID RIGHT-WING LOON: “They want to recruit more queers! They want to convert people to their conversion!”

EVERYBODY ELSE: “Convert people? Dude, you don’t want to have sex with guys, don’t have sex with guys. They’re not trying to recruit anybody.”

RABID RIGHT-WING LOON: “Of course they are! Look at them! Two guys kissing! Two men, pressing their lips against one another! He’s even got his hand behind the other guy’s head! Fingers in his hair! You TOTALLY know that later, he’s going to kiss the guy’s neck! And unbutton his shirt! And stroke his fingertips through the guy’s chest hair! And lick his nipple! And cup his genitals through his jeans! And unfasten his belt! And unbutton his fly! And take his testicles into his mouth!”

EVERYBODY ELSE: “Are you okay? You’re looking a little sweaty.”

RABID RIGHT-WING LOON: “DON’T YOU SEE! IT HAS TO BE STOPPED BEFORE THEY TURN EVERYBODY GAY!”

EVERYBODY ELSE: “Here, why don’t you sit down a minute. You want some water?”

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

@Mr. Moto

Rather a simplistic summary of the events, isn’t it? It leaves out the fines for contempt of court, the disbarment, and the financial settlement in return for the dropping of the appeal of the suit’s dismissal.

All irrelevant to the discussion since none of those involve Clinton either admitting to or being found liable for sexual harrassment.

[Sean_Factotum]

@Beware of Doug

Wasn’t there an old rule (or at least someone trying to convince us of one) that only the passive party in man sex was truly gay, whereas a Real Man could instigate bumping uglies with anyone or anything?

Well, there were those warriors in Greece a couple of thousand years ago …

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

@Mr. Moto

No. Separate issues. The disbarment was pending before the Arkansas Bar - referred there by Judge Wright. As part of the final settlement of the Independent Counsel investigation, President Clinton agreed to a five-year suspension of his license.

You claimed that Clinton admitted to sexual harrasment,a dn that Democrats stood behind him after he had done so. Do you still hold to those claims? If so, cite?

[Liberal]

@Diogenes the Cynic

The Paula Jones case was dismissed for lack of merit.

Wow. That’s low-ball even for you, Dio. It was dismissed because Clinton’s obstructions directly led to the appearance of a lack of merit, for which he was later punished.

[Beware_of_Doug]

@Onomatopoeia

<cough>Mitch McConnell</cough>.

Ya think? Even tho he’s married to our rather delectable Secretary of Labor?

[DoctorJ]

Ya think? Even tho he’s married to our rather delectable Secretary of Labor?

Those rumors have flown around for years. Mitch was drafted in the late 60s and spent something like four days in the Army before being discharged, and he has never explained why or let anyone see the discharge paperwork.

I don’t know if there’s anything to it.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

@Liberal

Wow. That’s low-ball even for you, Dio. It was dismissed because Clinton’s obstructions directly led to the appearance of a lack of merit, for which he was later punished.

Wrong. It was dismissed because the judge ruled that EVEN IF EVERYTHING JONES ALLEGED WAS TRUE, that it still did not constitute sexual harrassment. Make sure you read sections II and III.

The Lewinski stuff had no relevance to the dismissal (it explicitly says so in section III). Please try to inform yourself of the facts before you accuse somebody else of being dishonest.

[tomndebb]

@DoctorJ

Those rumors have flown around for years. Mitch was drafted in the late 60s and spent something like four days in the Army before being discharged, and he has never explained why or let anyone see the discharge paperwork.

I don’t know if there’s anything to it.

From Wikipedia Mitch McConnell Career prior to the Senate:

McConnell became a member of the 100th Training Unit, U.S. Army Reserve, Louisville, Kentucky, in March 1967, during his final semester of law school, and reported for his six months of active service, primarily for training, in July 1967. Ten days after induction at Fort Knox, Kentucky, McConnell was diagnosed with optic neuritis. He was released from the military in August after serving less than sixty days with an honorable discharge.

[askeptic]

Tom not to be a dick but couldn’t one his flunkies plugged that into Wiki? Not saying they did but Wiki ain’t exactly a font of cross checked verified info.

ETA: Plus usually when they drop you for medical reasons prior to completion of training it is not by “Honorable Discharge”. That usually is reserved for those who complete training. And people seperated for medical reasons are seperated by “Medical Discharge”. IIRC

[Cervaise]

@askeptic

Wiki ain’t exactly a font of cross checked verified info.

A very small and juvenile part of me wants to modify the sentence to read, “Ten days after induction at Fort Knox, Kentucky, McConnell was diagnosed with acute adoration of the cock and balls.”

Thankfully, the rest of me is more disciplined than that.
–twitch–

[Voyager]

@Airman Doors

I am simply stating a fact, no more, no less. The Republican party is loaded with people that claim to be conservative but are nothing more than hypocrites. I suppose there is something in the water in DC that causes this, because in retrospect all politicians are hypocrites in some fashion. But I digress.

In any event, any implication you draw from my post is entirely up to you. As I am seen as a conservative on these boards (and compared to most of the SDMB I usually am) I’d thank you not to associate me with the scumbags in question. Attack Republicans at your leisure. Attack them for their faux conservatism if you like. But please don’t speak in generalities. You attacked Weirddave for taking one instance of lunacy and tarring liberals with it, I’d thank you to avoid doing the same to me.

Perhaps you are more of a libertarian than conservative? The Libertarian wing of the Republican party doesn’t seem to have these issues. I doubt Ron Paul would get worked up over this crap. When there was a liberal wing, that would be fine also, but it’s more of a feather these days. (One big reason why I left.) But since the Republican party today is primarily socially conservative, and rigidly so, I don’t think the generalization is a particularly bad one.

Look at the candidates. The only ones who don’t qualify are Paul and Giuliani, and Giuliani is back pedaling.

[gigi]

@Onomatopoeia

Another ‘I’m not’ Gay Republican Goes Down for the Count

Just one little “o” makes all the difference. :o → Oh!

[HMS_Irruncible]

I don’t know that I’d describe the Republican position as hypocritical. They seem to regard homosexuality as a behavior, a kink, not an identity of a lifestyle. Suck dick in bathrooms and then go home to the wife and kiddies. Don’t try to settle down and marry someone of the same sex, though.

Bizarre and surreal at times, but consistent… which is how one could describe most Republican policies, I guess…

[Merijeek]

@Cosmic Relief

I don’t know that I’d describe the Republican position as hypocritical. They seem to regard homosexuality as a behavior, a kink, not an identity of a lifestyle. Suck dick in bathrooms and then go home to the wife and kiddies. Don’t try to settle down and marry someone of the same sex, though.

Except you’re completely wrong. They’re not down with Craig trying to suck dick in a bathroom and then going home to his wife - they want to stick it to all the homos (rimshot), not just the ones who aren’t content to stay in the closet.

-Joe