Is there a Jewish cookbook? What can I create with a beagle that isn’t quite housetrained after 18 months? What about Hispanic children, good eating? Is there something like Dianetics for all of us Goys that want to learn? So many questions.
Christopher Hitchens – who knows more about just about everything than I do – just suggested on Hardball with Chris Matthews that the movie is not faithful to the Gospels, or history. I do know that one thing he suggested, Pilate not being a pawn of the Jews, is true. That’s from Roman History at UF, not the Bible.
Pilate had ordered tens of thousands of Jews killed, before and after the death of Jesus. Jesus was a political threat due to the following that he had obtained.
He was seen as a threat…to the order…perhaps both Roman and the very very small minority of prominant leaders of the Jewish community.
The dog, neither having cloven hooves or chewing its cud twice is not kosher. Hmm, Jewish tradition suggests you kill it, wait for the corpse to begin rotting, than put it in a sturdy sack with some heavy rocks and drop it down one of the wells the gentiles drink from.
Hispanic children from your own region will have no noticable differenc. This is not true of children from Latin America. Due to the differences in diet, there is a marked difference in flavor and texture. Just be sure to cook thoroughly, or you’ll likely catch Montezuma’s Revenge.
I think it’s unfortunate that the OP had a good topic to discuss, and you guys have derailed it to an “unthinkable recipe forum”. If you understand the gravity of the situation that a church is posting a sign saying, “The Jews Killed Our Lord Jesus”, I doubt you would find this thread a place to make jokes.
Think of the people who died in the holocaust, because of anti-semitism, before you reduce a potential threat to more Jew-hating down to a joke thread.
It has been an interesting rest of the week, to say the least.
I have been approached no less than 4 times by people asking me why “Jews killed Christ”…One guy in one of my classes said that it was his “duty” as a “good upstanding Baptist” to make sure that I (a Jew) went to see the Passion. He even offered to pay my ticket for me (pulled out $6…the student ticket prices in these parts). I guess it comes with the territory if you’re one of 2 or 3 people on campus who are willing to wear a kippah all the time. But still, the fears that the ADL, et al. have had are starting to come true, if not in the flamboyant way they were predicting (kkk, nazis, etc. holding rallies).
It’s scary. There was a speaker brought in by the campus chapter of Campus Crusade for Christ. While I did not go to the lecture myself, I talked to some friends of mine who did go (they were relatively “neutral” in the whole debate and all), and while the speaker did not outright condemn the Jews for killing Jesus, he certainly did not try to keep the entire Jewish people, then and now, from any blame. And he skirted the issue of the fact that the Romans are the ones who really did the deed (Crucifixion is a Roman punishment, not Jewish).
The Chinese say “may you live in interesting times.” I just wonder whom I pissed off to get such interesting times in Houston.
CM:If you understand the gravity of the situation that a church is posting a sign saying, “The Jews Killed Our Lord Jesus”, I doubt you would find this thread a place to make jokes.
Hey, poking fun at people who make hideous false accusations about us is a long-standing Jewish tradition. Poking fun at just about everything when things look grim is a long-standing Jewish tradition, come to think of it.
And I must admit I also thought that sign, though predictable and deplorable, was pretty funny, just because of the context. I mean, come on: this congregation is presumably pretty hard-core conservative Christian, and they don’t get riled up about the Jews allegedly killing their Lord Jesus until they happen to see it in a Mel Gibson movie?! Sorry, but that is funny. Cheer up, maybe these people will come across a rental video of Disney’s Prince of Egypt and broaden their ecumenical horizons a bit.
My great grandfather lived in the Ukraine. During a pogrom, he had to kill a soldier in self defense. He fled to America.
I grew up in Virginia. My highschool had 2000 students. 10 of those students were black. 20 were Jewish.
One friday night, my family headed to synagogue to discover that a cross had been burned on a member’s lawn. Years later, my parents informed that this happened several times, but I was so young that they decided not to tell me.
While staying in a mental health facility during the holidays, I had to explain why exactly a Christmas tree was an endorsement of Christmas and why I felt insulted by the lack of Hannukah decorations. A few months earlier, I had gotten back in line and said ‘Those turkey sandwhiches are really good. May I please have another?’ only to be told ‘It’s not turkey. It’s ham.’ ‘But, my file says I’m kosher-no mixed meat and dairy products, and no pork.’ ‘This isn’t pork. It’s ham.’
We moved from Virginia to a little suburb north of Philly when I was 16. There, the neighbors politely and quietly made it clear that we weren’t welcome. One year, a few graduating seniors added a few letters to the information under their pictures. When read in order they said “Kill the kikes”.
The neighborhood I live in now has a very large Jewish population. Much of that is Refusniks, Jewish immigrants from the former USSR. Since I wear yarmulke, they know that I’m Jewish and many of them have stopped me to talk about it. I once had a half hour conversation with a man who spoke almost no English ( I speak almost no Yiddish and maybe twenty words in Russian) about how marvellous it was to live in America where we could be free to be Jews. Another neighbor (with the help of a relative who is fluent in Yiddish) told me that back in the old country, he went to synagogue every friday night knowing that participating in services could result in beating, jailing, or even death.
I understand very well the seriousness of the situation. The bitter jest has been a Jewish tradition for a very long time.
Discussing Jews eating people is right in line with the “Jews killing Jesus.” It’s what we call dark humor to make a point. I attended a school that was about 40% Jewish growing up. I hate Jews.
Just kidding. One thing I learned about synogogue, having attended a couple times, is that the food is of non-human origin. The fish stuff was vile when I had my youthful palate, but still non-human.
The second thing I learned is that Jews may not be super-enthusiastic about Goys attending synogogue, but they have exactly ZERO to say against Jesus or the religion they assumed I followed. The opposite, in fact. They would try to make me feel welcome.
The Jewish method of only accepting desirous, willing converts is about as nice a way of going about it as there is in the world. Of course, that’s easy to follow when you just eat your enemies.
I’ve always been an agnostic Unitarian, as I doubt all religons equally. But, I am willing to glean useful tidbits of knowledge from any of them. For example, Hindus and the “recycling universe” – I’ve heard that is a pretty good model for modern cosmology if you update the terminology and stuff, as I just did.
There is certainly a bit of dark humor that comes into play here. Indeed, I am as guilty of it as anyone on this thread; however, I believe that CM’s point is that the line between “dark humor” and “mockery of a serious situation” has been crossed.
