Thank you for the direct link to Reuters. I agree that throwing bottles is dangerous and potentially deadly and that it does indeed appear that Miss Rosealma was engaged in that activity. I also agree that it certainly makes her a, uh, much less sympathetic figure (at the very least).
It’s a bit ambigous on the creator part, that could be talking about God, Nature, a mad scientist, or even just your parents.
Neither god nor nature created rights. Especially not inalienable rights. I can tell this, because those rights can be violated. If they were inalienable, they could not be.
If you are playing an online RGP, like World of Warcraft, you would see that there are some inalienable rights there. You cannot attack someone in a city. It’s not frowned upon, you don’t receive a sanction, you won’t get in trouble with the law, it just is not possible. So, were there to be some power greater than ourselves from which these rights extend, then that power would be enforcing and protecting those rights, and we wouldn’t even need to talk about them, you would just have them.
As our rights are created by man, and man is pretty flawed, those rights are only as strong as the enforcement and protection granted to them by man. Which means that it is frowned upon, and you may receive sanction for violating someone’s rights, but there really isn’t much that can be done proactively to protect them.
Show me a right that cannot be violated, and I may concede that that right was created by something other than man.
Reading through the article that you cite, I find myself wondering why the pro-trump side had such violent rhetoric. I suppose it does make sense to cancel the parade when the pro-trump people were so spoiling for a fight, but you are right that it is pretty uncool.
“trespass”? My understanding was that her plans (before this cancellation) were to speak at Sproul Plaza, which I’ve heard is an open public space where pretty much anyone can come and speak. Why do you describe it as a “trespass”? I didn’t think even the UC Berkeley administration had taken that position.
From a person who is known to be violent, in fact there is video of him kicking a protester while the protestor is laying there defenseless. He is amember of “Hell Shaking Street Preachers”, he posted this
Bragging about his groups penchant for violence.
Now, this is contrasted to an anonymous email, that for all I know, you could have sent as a false flag, or some idiot could have sent becuase he supported stupid things like violence in protests.
Point is, on one side, you have a leader of a group who has participated in quite a bit of violence talking about gearing up for a fight, and on the other, you have an anonymous email that might represent the perspective of a member, but is most certainly not representative of the leadership, or the bulk of the protesters.
Now, a poor form of false equivalency would be to paint them as the same, an even poorer argument would be to take the anonymous email as more serious than the one signed by the leader of a violent group.
Twitter is a platform which one can find lots of violent rhetoric by the Alt Right. @rvawonk has shared plenty of this in the past few weeks. I’ll post some links later, when I have the chance to dig them up.
Thanks, but it’s besides the point. k9bfriender appears to refer to violent rhetoric in the article, not on Twitter.
He seems to believe that the parade was cancelled primarily / exclusively because of violent rhetoric from the pro-Trump side. It was a clever post, almost cute, but seems like a perspective at odds with reality.
