Never, no way, no how!!!
Ah yes, that mess. A whole 5 terrorist attacks in 10 in years. Caused by a set of people trained and funded by…let’s see…the Reagan Administration. Why wasn’t this mess cleaned up by the Reagan/Bush Sr administrations?
Oh - btw, once there have been 5 terrorist attacks against American targets while Bush Jr is prez, will you declare him as having created a mess? Let’s see, there was one about 1.5 years ago, and another one Sunday.
once there have been 5 terrorist attacks against American targets while Bush Jr is prez, will you declare him as having created a mess? Let’s see, there was one about 1.5 years ago, and another one Sunday. ~ Rexnervous
Damnit Rexnervous, I think I like you, what is your point?
Of the examples you gave the majority were directed towards military targets. Terrorism directed towards a military target is far different than a civilian one. If you are going to create a corelation between who was in office and terrorist attacks against civilians, then GW Bush is the “oser” due to Sept. 11 alone.
You should realize that this sort of comparison is baseless. “The Mess” Bush is cleaning up is not due to Clinton. “The Mess” was created over a course of decades due to our increased involvement in situations we don’t need to be in. It has finally come to us invading a country for no legitimate reason for purposes unknown to the US or the world.
It is important to note that the world, and this country, are not behind this war. You don’t see the American Flags flying on cars, stickers proudly displayed in the back windows, so much now. Our citizens are questioning the actions behind our involvement and I honestly think are wondering what Bush is doing.
These are the same questions that reared up during the Vietnam War, perhaps the only prescedent for this engagement. We should have learned a valuable lesson from that engagement. We lost 50,000, the North Vietnamese lost 5 million. I’m wondering where and when it will stop.
I’m not sure that it can be stopped. The invasion of Iraq will go back to being just a step in the “war on terrorism”, and any candidate that opposes it will be accused of being soft on terrorism.
My question is: How could anyone not vote for a man of such erudition, knowledge, cultivation, and overall command of the English language?
The following observations by President Bush are indicative of the depth of his scholarliness on such topics as foreign policy, educatlion, the enviroment, middle eastern culture, history, etc.
These quotes should go a long way in quelling his many Demon-crat detractors who have unabashedly spewed their vile innuendos and malicious halftruths in this very thread.
Education You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.’’ —George W. Bush, Feb. 21, 2001
I want it to be said that the Bush administration was a results-oriented administration, because I believe the results of focusing our attention and energy on teaching children to read and having an education system that's responsive to the child and to the parents, as opposed to mired in a system that refuses to change, will make America what we want it to be — a more literate country and a hopefuller country." —George W. Bush, Jan. 11, 2001
Aviation I am here to make an announcement that this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly out of Ronald Reagan Airport." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Oct. 3, 2001
Nuclear Deterrence
But I also made it clear to (Vladimir Putin) that it’s important to think beyond the old days of when we had the concept that if we blew each other up, the world would be safe." —George W. Bush, May 1, 2001
Middle Eastern Culture I couldn’t imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah." —George W. Bush, at a White House Menorah lighting ceremony, Washington, D.C., Dec. 10, 2001
Middle East Politics There’s nothing more deep than recognizing Israel’s right to exist. That’s the most deep thought of all. … I can’t think of anything more deep than that right." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002
Terrorism We are fully committed to working with both sides to bring the level of terror down to an acceptable level for both." —George W. Bush, after a meeting with congressional leaders, Washington, D.C., Oct. 2, 2001
Logic There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
If a person doesn't have the capacity that we all want that person to have, I suspect hope is in the far distant future, if at all." —George W. Bush, May 22, 2001
There's no question that the minute I got elected, the storm clouds on the horizon were getting nearly directly overhead." —George W. Bush, May 11, 2001
I'm hopeful. I know there is a lot of ambition in Washington, obviously. But I hope the ambitious realize that they are more likely to succeed with success as opposed to failure." —George W. Bush, Jan. 18, 2001
History My trip to Asia begins here in Japan for an important reason. It begins here because for a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the great and enduring alliances of modern times. From that alliance has come an era of peace in the Pacific." —George W. Bush, who apparently forgot about a little something called World War II, Tokyo, Feb. 18, 2002
Power Generation The California crunch really is the result of not enough power-generating plants and then not enough power to power the power of generating plants." —George W. Bush, Jan. 14, 2001
North American Politics Neither in French nor in English nor in Mexican." —George W. Bush, declining to take reporters’ questions during a photo op with Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien, April 21, 2001
Geo-Politics
But the true threats to stability and peace are these nations that are not very transparent, that hide behind the—that don’t let people in to take a look and see what they’re up to. They’re very kind of authoritarian regimes. The true threat is whether or not one of these people decide, peak of anger, try to hold us hostage, ourselves; the Israelis, for example, to whom we’ll defend, offer our defenses; the South Koreans." —George W. Bush, in a media roundtable discussion, March 13, 2001
Past, present, future tense I am mindful not only of preserving executive powers for myself, but for predecessors as well." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2001
Unless you believe the national polls, which show an approval of somewhere around 65 to 75% of Americans support the effort.
To answer the OP: I did not vote for GWB. I would rather have had someone with a better command of the language – Tony Blair, for example. (Athough I have seen a few posts from our friends across the pond to the effect that Mr. Blair has other shortcomings.) However, if the election were held today, and if it were between GWB and Mr. Gore, I would vote for GW. Mr. Gore is not all that much better a speaker than Mr. Bush. He doesn’t mangle words as much, but he is really not all that inspiring either, and I don’t think he would have handled 9/11 and its aftermath effectively. I often wonder if GWB would have been a better speaker if he’d had appropriate therapy for dyslexia in his youth. What will happen by the next election, who can say?
Would you like to buy a clue? We’ll vote for the guy not likely to start a US–Pan-Arab holocaust.
I am on record on this board as conceding the fact that a majority of people in Florida may have exited the polls believing they voted for Gore. I don’t know that for sure, but there’s certainly a reasonable argument to be made for it. It is probably largely indeterminate, given the closeness of the race and the greatly differing opinions over how to interpret ballots. IMO, either guy may have “received” the most votes.
That still doesn’t equate with “Bush stole the election” unless you believe the Republicans deliberately created the circumstance that resulted in the confused voters OR that their behavior (include SCOTUS here, if you’d like) in the aftermath, if altered, could have resulted in Gore winning. Neither of those statements are true. Do you agree? Exactly which “frauds” and “misdeeds” are you referring to that could have resulted in a different result, had they not been committed?
I’d rather pluck out my left eyeball with a rusty butter knife.
Well, OK, Bob, lets accept that for the sake of argument. The Pubbies had this unfortunate situation thrust upon them, despite thier best intentions, this unfortunate result was unavoidable, with heavy hearts they accepted what could not be changed.
And then GeeDubya goes before the American people and says “I know this election was a fluke, and my occupation of the Oval Office cannot be legitimately held to reflect the will of the people. I pledge to be mindful of that fact, and to govern from the center, and avoid and eschew any effort to force through a partisan agenda. There is no mandate, and I will not pretend otherwise.”
Remember hearing that speech? Niether do I.
I will be voting for G.W. Bush
Personally I’d like to have Tony Blair, wanna trade? 
I actually don’t believe the “national polls” are accurate in this issue. I was called for a poll and the main question asked was along the lines of, “are you for or against the Second Iraqi War?”
With a question that wide ranging it would seem to skew the results. Many people are not sure what to think about this situation. If given a a choice of yes or no, they might choose yes when they are not at all sure.
So, long story short, I don’t believe the national polls. I have talked to a lot of people about this (I live in the Southeast) and they are generally unsure, scared, and concerned about our actions. I believe my statement is more accurate than polls. People are generally NOT behind this war because they do not understand why we are there.
Also consider these same polls indicate that the “majority” of Americans believe that Saddam bombed the World Trade Towers and the Taliban and Al Queda are the same thing.
You have got to be kidding.
Having said that, I predict he ain’t going to get in next time around, so maybe he’ll be looking for a job in a couple of years.
A humble request from a foreigner to lapsed Dem.s / people who aren’t happy with Dubya
** VOTE **
early and often if needs be
Voted for him, would vote again, and barring catastrophe, will vote for him again in 2004.
I will not be voting G. W. Bush. I didn’t vote for him before, and I won’t again.
And as for Clinton, I’d much rather have a President getting it on in the Oval Office than getting off on being the world bullyboy…
I did not vote for him (directly) last time and I won’t this time either.
Of course, I’m going back to writing in Dick Gregory, someone I truly believe in.
So…it won’t count?
it does to me.