Any credible white rappers besides the Beastie Boys?

There’s a huge “indie rap” movement going on right now, and most of the rappers, turntablists, and producerscoming out of it are white.

Someone above mentioned Sage Francis, Sole, and Slug, most of which came out of the Anticon label/collective. Also check out Dose One and his groups Clouddead and Themselves, as well as Why?

But don’t forget the Definitive Jux label http://www.definitivejux.net - EL-P just might be the most respected non-mainstream rapper and label head, and he’s white. He was a part of the seminal group Company Flow, who practically “invented” non-mainstream, indie rap, and he now heads Def Jux and does solo stuff. And don’t forget Aesop Rock, also on Def Jux, who I think is probably the greatest rapper currently making music. The man’s like Thomas Pynchon on the microphone.

Also, Edan, if anyone’s heard him. Amazing lo-fi “bedroom hip hop.”

My mind reels at the thread title.

MC Frontalot

The world’s 579th greatest rapper, and although I’ve never seen a picture of him, he sounds pretty white to me. Maybe someone else can confirm this…

Also, I read somewhere that 3rd Bass was well respected by the hip hop community in their time. I still listen to their albums every once in a while, and they are actually pretty good.

As for Snow, he supposedly remained popular in Canada for quite a while after Informer left the charts in the US.

Anyone remember Tairrie B? I’d be kind of suprised if anyone did. She was a white, female rapper that was backed by Eazy E during his heyday. This must have been around '89 or so. She had an album, the name of which I don’t remember, that I thought was decent. She didn’t have much success, but some heavyweights of the LA scene of the time (Eazy, Dre, The D.O.C, and others) appeared on her album, so she was credible in that sense.

Hmm, would “The Real Roxanne” qualify as white? I guess she probably self-identified as hispanic.

MC Stephen Hawking

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/3/mchawkingmusic.htm

Prepare to get wet

Why not?

Does Beck count?

MC Hawking! :smiley:
My whole office just came unglued…
On a more serious note, now that you mention it, I should have known that Everlast fronted House of Pain.

Thanks for all the responses. I didn’t realize there were that many white rappers around.

But, seriously, Vanilla Ice: competent or a wannabe? He seems sincere enough, but did he have the skillz? :smiley:

'Splain?

:confused: Are you implying that the Beastie Boys are not considered credible rappers? I suspect you listened to their very early misogynist, party songs, (recorded when they were very young), formed your opinion, then never listened to them again. Too bad, since all 7 albums they released since then have reached double platinum at least (Hello Nasty reached Quadruple Platinum).

Not that making money is a sign of credibility. But how about this:

In 1995, upon the release of Ill Communication, they founded the Milarepa Fund, a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting awareness and activism regarding the injustices perpetrated on native Tibetans by Chinese occupational government and military forces. Proceeds from all concerts that year, as well as all the royalties from two songs on that album, were donated to the fund.

Then in 1996 they held the first Tibetan Freedom Concert - a benefit concert with proceeds going to the Milarepa fund. Also playing at this concert: A Tribe Called Quest, Beck, Bjork, Cibo Matto, De La Soul, Foo Fighters, Fugees, John Lee Hooker, Pavement, Rage Against The Machine, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, Sonic Youth, Yoko Ono and Ima, Buddy Guy, Biz Markie, Skatalites, Richie Havens, Chaksam-Pa, and guest speakers Tibet House founder Robert Thurman and Palden Gyatso, a Tibetan monk who endured 33 years of torture and imprisonment for nonviolent protest.

In 1997, they held another one. This one featured U2, Radiohead, Foo Fighters, Rancid, KRS-One, the Patti Smith Group, Alanis Morissette and others.

Another one in 1998: Radiohead, Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, R.E.M, Herbie Hancock’s Headhunters, Sonic Youth, Luscious Jackson and a surprise finale’ by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, among others.

In the wake of September 11th, the Milarepa-organized, Beastie Boys-headlined New Yorkers Against Violence benefit took place. The funds were disbursed to the New York Women’s Foundation Disaster Relief Fund and the New York Association for New Americans (NYANA) September 11th Fund for New Americans–organizations chosen for their efforts on behalf of those affected by the September 11th attacks least likely to receive help from other sources.

The NYAV line-up included the Strokes, the B-52’s, Cibo Matto, Rahat Fateh Ali Khan, Mos Def, NER*D, Rival Schools, the Roots, Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, Saul Williams, Stretch Armstrong, Afrika Bambaata, Moby, Michael Stipe, and Bono. Speakers at the event included Yoko Ono, Ibrahim Ramey of the Muslim Peace Fellowship, Benjamin Barber of Democracy Collaborative, Yanki Tshering of NYANA, Miriam Buhl of the NYWF, while surprise intros came from Jimmy Fallon, Sean Lennon, and the Beastie Boys.

Feel free to dislike them, but to imply that they are not credible rappers, as you can see, is rather ludicrous. They are one of the most highly respected bands alive right now, not just in the Hip Hop genre.

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Junior Senior is white. I kinda dig them.

How about 3D from Massive Attack? I guess Massive Attack is trip-hop, really, but 3D’s definately got some kind of lyrical flow goin’ on. It’s pretty mellow and whispery, but it’s rapping.

No. Vanilla Ice wasn’t just a punchline in the 80 and 90s. He remains a punchline today. Although I’d do him.

How about Princess Superstar?

Bubba Sparxxx

Good 'ol boy, southern-fried, hick-hop :wink:

According to rumor, at least, rap was invented by Blondie, a white female pop artist. I’d never admit this to anyone in person, but I think she’s pretty good.

Oh sure. . .there’s. . .

MC Cracker

Da’ HonkyZ

W.W.A. (WhiteyZ With Attitude)

DJ Tiny Dick

White Devil

Da Sootz

Sir Investalot

Ol’ White Bastard

The Knobs Hill Gang

blondie “invented” rap?

please…

just like elvis “invented” rock and roll…

mc serch was pretty damned good. he was sort of a casualty of the third bass hit “pop goes the weasel.” they did some good stuff before and after that song.

and the beastie boys make some good music, and are pioneers in the realm of producing, but as emcees, they leave a lot to be desired. their vocal style has been pretty stagnant since their first album. but their music isn’t really about pushing the lyrical envelope.

there’s mc paul barman. that guy is pretty funny, but the gimmick wears off quick.

sole and dose from anticon are really good.

then there’s that bubba sparxx guy. i don’t like him much, but with timbaland doing his beats, you could listen to worse…

Sorry, but I think everyone on Anticon is absolutely awful. Its like the emo college rock of hip-hop all collected under one pretentious label. The rappers themselves are ok on the technical aspects, but thats about it. They try too hard to impress by rapping really fast while focusing on making the most complex and overworked rhymes they can. This makes for poor flow and diction; the beats and production are also lacking.

Interestingly, most of Anticon’s patrons are white suburban teens. The black hiphop fans I’ve “exposed” to Anticon artists have been universally lukewarm in their response (and this was before revealing they were white). If they’d known beforehand they’d probably be even more hostile towards it. I have a feeling there are VERY few black fans of Anticon groups.