Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1)

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After a few “what has happened before” vignettes, High Priest Dario announces Ultima Lucha will be so big, he has to start it a week early. He also announces the Big Secret behind the Aztec medallions will be revealed. No, it’s to summon Huitzilopochtli as I thought (when do I ever predict things correctly?), but it’s still cool.

First match: Recent face-turned heel Johnny Mundo vs Now-loves-Mexico-even-though-he-named-himself-after-Texas Texano. Not having seen anything AAA, I’m not familiar with Texano’s style, but he pulled off some surprisingly snappy moves vs Mundo. They did a HOLY SHIT! version of the Monkey Flip: Texano had Mundo in the corner, then jumped to the second rope and bounced down to add leverage to the ensuing flip. Mundo then did a 450 on his own face! MIERDA! (Holy shit in Spanish according to Google Translate) Suddenly, the Crew emerges and attack Texano. Mundo joins in on the stomping, and then Alberto El No-Show arrives to make the save. Since Al and Tex are/were archenemies, there was a little staredown between the two afterwards, but no further aggression.

[As a sidenote, here’s Dean Ambrose when he was Jon Moxley in a tag match vs Johnny Nitro (now Mundo) and Joey Mercury (when he had hair) back in 2006. Ambrose had long rock star hair back then, and you can see him do those crazyman in-ring gestures he still does today.]

Next, Cage vs The Mack II. This ended with a rollup win for Mack in about a minute. I HATE those, but I guess they had to conserve cable time. They brawled afterward, and Cueto came out to announce they would have another match at Ultima Lucha where they would be provided junk (“plundah” in Dustyese) they could use on each other.

Next, Cueto is talking with Hernandez in his office. He tells him he and Drago will face each other at UL, and it will be a lumberjack-style match where fans with whips and leather straps will surround the ring. I don’t know if these will be real fans or plants, since there’s so much lawsuit potential if something goes wrong. Maybe the Temple is actually like an embassy, not considered American soil or something. Hernandez has already caused legal trouble with TNA, when he didn’t bother to tell them he had a contract with LU when they wanted to put him in the Beat Down Clan. As a result, they couldn’t air any of his matches on TV, including the 6-man matches he took part in. I’m sure the already financially-beleaguered TNA performers loved that.

In another office scene, Dario tells Ryck Fury he should be working directly for him, not be Les Bloomfield’s lackey. He inadvertently makes eye puns and apologizes. He’ll give Ryck an Aztec Medallion if he does so. “It’s up to you,” says Dario with Mephistopholian undertones, “do you want money? Or power?” Ryck takes a few puffs of his cigar and says “Why not both?” Cuerto reluctantly gives him the medallion and a stack of dead presidents.

Next, Cueto reveals the big secret behind the medallions. He displays a stand with a belt divided into seven sections, each bearing a medallion-sized hole embossed with lucha masks. He calls the medallion winners to the ring, and explains that they will have a Seven-way match at UL for this “Gift of the Gods.” Each lucha goes forth to fit their medallion in a hole as Cueto further reveals that the winner of the 7-way can exchange the GotG for a championship match, but (digging at WWE) they have to wait a week so he can properly promote it.

The seventh hole is still empty. Dario wonders where Fenix is? Oh well, we’ll have to have a Battle Royal to determine the 7th contestant. Fenix shows up in a black shirt, ostensibly to cover the scars and wounds he received from being powerbombed the office ceiling by Mil Muertes. Cueto tells him he can take part in the Battle Royal if he wants, which will start RIGHT NOW!

The ensuing BR involves Mascarita, Les “Davari” Bloomfield, Marty the Moth, Killshot, Super Fly, and some PWG guys used as jobbers in LU. In this version, the last two guys remaining have to resolve the match by pinfall or submission, rather than elimination. (I think they should refer to throwing somebody out of the ring as “defenestration.” That’s a fancy term for throwing somebody out the window) One of the contestants uses a Pedigree on another lucha, and Stryker comments “It may win on Monday nights, but not here!”

It comes down to Fenix and Marty the Moth, who the announcers say is on his third try for a medallion. I like Marty. He’s my favorite jobber. Fenix sells being in pain and Marty capitalizes, but Fenix manages another one of his out-of-nowhere flipadoodle moves and pins Marty.

Finally, Prince Puma comes out to address Konnan’s inhumation (opposite of exhumation) at the hands of Mil Muertes and the Disciples of Death. For the first time, we get to hear PP speak! Will this Indiana boy be able to fake a hispanic accent? We don’t get to find out. As he brandishes the mike, Catrina and MM descend the temple steps. MM is wearing a suit this time, and it makes him look even more like a walking wall. The Ds of D run in for a sneak attack, but PP fights them off with amazing speed, like Luke Skywalker using the Force. Seriously, it’s like they hit Fast Forward, but they didn’t. PP is that fucking amazing. MM comes in himself to attack, but Puma retaliates and finishes him off with the 630 Splash. So, we still don’t get to hear Puma say anything, but sometimes life is like that.

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Apparently, ancient Aztec medallions are magnetic, creating terrifying crossover potential with Juggalo Championship Wrestling.

Fucking Magnetic Championship Belts! How do they work?

DESK’s (originally meant to be) quickie review of “gay” wrestlers mentioned above. Now with 50% more punctuation! !

Young, healthy Adrian Adonis was an OK heel. The Adorible One was awful. It was, even for the time, stupidly over the top. Pink tights and make-up, really. I know there isn’t an easy way to let a new viewer go “he’s gay” but how about a little subtlety. At least he remained a ruthless heel in the ring.

I’m wasn’t a big fan of Marc Mero in any form, but Johnny B. Badd didn’t offend me since he wasn’t supposed to be a generic gay guy, but a rip-off of a particular person. My big question is who were they trying to attract with a Little Richard gimmick in the 80’s?

Billy and Chuck offended me until the wedding pay-off when they revealed that they were straights acting like how they thought gay people acted. I thought it would have been a good launch into a fued with another team coming out of the closet and attacking them for insulting gays. I don’t know who could of pulled it off but I’m thinking a tough, no bs team ala Blanchard/Anderson.

I’m a big Goldust fan. It might sound weird, but he never seemed like a “gay” character to me. Even when he was kissing and borderline molesting his opponents, it always seemed like just another mind game from The Bizarre One.

As for The Darren Young character isn’t gay statement; I know that Darren Young (wrestler) and Darren Young (person) are not identical but with the " coming out party" promo, they acknowledged they are both gay. It doesn’t need to be a major part af his character though. All they’ll do is screw it up. I can see Vince and Co. having him run in fear from “icky” Divas or beating Barrett and insisting on being called The Queen of the Ring. Vince, put the crayon down and step away from the script.

In regards to Lucha Underground, are there key matches I should look for on YouTube or should it be preferably be viewed as entire episodes.?

His feud with Piper was pretty much a gay-bashing angle, where gay-bashing was the right thing to do. Fortunately, Goldust was able to evolve the character past that.

Both? Titus was being acknowledge as “Father of the Year” (yes, I know gay men can be fathers, but that wasn’t the message) just a few weeks ago. Only Darren acknowledge coming out.

Sorry, I was clear as mud there. By both, I meant Darren Young the character and Darren Young the real person.

And re: Piper/Goldy. I forgot about that angle. I blame the drugs…I haven’t had any.

Meanwhile, WWE has unpersoned Hulk Hogan. Earlier this evening and without comment, they took him out of the alumni section of their website, discontinued all his merchandise, pulled him from the Tough Enough panel, theyve changed #Axelmania back to Curtis Axel, and are apparently purging pretty much any mention of him from the website.

It’s being rumored that a tabloid is going to go public today with a tape of Hulk going on a pretty vicious N-word filled tirade, so it appears Titan Towers has decided to preemptively cut ties with him.

LU is different than most wrestling shows in that it has a lot of conventionally shot promos and a story arc that develops from show to show, so if you just watch the matches you’ll be missing out - but I can recommend the Prince Puma vs. Johnny Mundo iron man match, the Mil Muertes vs. Fenix casket match, and the Son of Havoc/Ivellise/Angelico vs. The Crew ladder match as some of the highlights of the series.

LU is more like wrestling as part of a supernatural movie storyline. The performers are amazing. None are really LU originals per se, as some are former WWE stars, a lot are stars in Mexican leagues, and a few also work for other feds like PWG. Some have different identities from their other workplaces. The head promoter is really an actor with no wrestling background. Mainly, the stars of the show are Robert Rodriguez’s moviemaking crew.

So, if you catch individual matches on Youtube, you will see some awesome lucha action, but there’s so much more to their backstories. Everything Smapti recommended gets a +1 from me.

Oh wow, I figured it’d be about his sex tape.

Is this a new tape? or something drudged up from (insert number of years ago)

The Enquirer’s got the story live now. I won’t link directly to it, but apparently it’s from the sex tape and it involves Hogan ranting about how he thinks his daughter Brooke is sleeping with a black man.

WWE’s now announced that they’ve fired Hogan, so I guess that means he’ll have to stop threatening us with the prospect of him wrestling again.

Oh…well that’s unfortunate.

That actually really sucks because, more than anyone else, he’s REALLY the face of the company and now they’re gonna have to live a weird double life pretending that he doesn’t exist

Saw one of the stories. If true, then yeah, he’s done.

I can’t see them giving him the Benoit treatment forever, but he will never…evvvvverrrrr appear on WWE TV again and they’re likely to de-emphasize him for a few years.

Think Dog the Bounty Hunter. He was removed from the air but managed to rehabilitate himself somewhat and get back on TV, but it was never the same.

Sadly, this will not lead to WWE de-emphasizing VINCE.

I’m wondering if Hulk’s ego got the better of him, he tried to elbow his way back to the spotlight, and WWE started looking for any excuse to get rid of him. Or, they had given him a second chance after the sex tape and said “not this time” because his liabilities exceeded his name value. I’m sure he’ll find other ways to exploit himself.

WWE has enough scandal problems, lawsuits, and other bad press constantly badgering them. Every time another story drops, Vince watches his net worth drop. Getting out in front of the Hogan story, he lowers the amount of the drop.

I wonder how much of this side of Hogan’s personality was known to the rest of the locker room. How many knew he was a closet racist?

I remember listening to a capture of a conference call Hogan made to his agent and to his son when he was in jail. They discussed making some kind of reality show out of the son’s predicament. Hogan truly is shameless in capitalizing on any kind of controversy. No doubt he’s going to hit the talk show circuit, maybe even apologize to Oprah.

Of course! Hogan is such a shameless self-promoter that he can’t even put anyone else over, it all turns into him putting himself over in front of the other guy.

Spent $2-3 million trying to give Brooke a career in music. Damned funny. SPEND MOAR DAD!!!

Wanting another run as WWE champ at 61. :smack: I so much wanted to see a variation of the Montreal Screwjob where they told Hogan he’d win the championship from Lesnar, then told Lesnar to utterly destroy Hogan.

Yeah, I’ve hated that guy and his ego since the Hogan-Andre days.

Since 1980?! :wink:

Um, yeah, some of us have been watching wrassling since the 80s and the 70s on tv (both local and cable) with family members who watched it live since the 50s (so could tell us about the Legends).

I never got into Hulkamania (though I did like the Cyndi Lauper angle) . I liked technical wrestlers more than the Stompers. My exception being Andre… he… was the coolest showman ever. Just because he boggled my (then) teen-aged mind.