Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1)

What they need is a great threesome (giggity) to rival against. Remember how much we wanted them to go against The Wyatt Family? And how hard we marked out when they did?

The story needs to be Strowman finding tag-teams to match up with and play a game of chess with The Shield and his briefcase. Ending with him finally picking AOP.

STC, your idea makes too much sense. They’ll probably have Nicholas come back to stand in the corner while Braun takes on all 3 Shieldsters.

More likely would be Drew and Dolph with Strohman. That would really mess with the heel/face dynamic.

Strohman and Finn. The classic Mutt and Jeff tag team.

Man alive, The New Day, especially Kofi and Woods, can really do a good back bump!

That main event was awesome and entertaining as hell. I’m all for another title run with them, although I have to ask…who’s thier next opponent?

It would be nice to elevate The Good Brothers rather than another run against The Bar. Maybe even start elevating Sanity. While their matches against The Usos were great, it still needs more time before picking back up.

ETA: Shame about Rowan. Get well soon, Erick.

Here’s a great article put up a few days ago about Randy Savage.

I think one thing is what makes LU so captivating is that they firmly established a culture of Mexican and LA myth where ghosts, aliens, monsters and wizards exist. Whenever WWE dabbles in such weirdness, it usually looks cartoonish, hokey and pointless. LU however is totally committed to the myth, and whenever they do a gimmick match, it’s totally engrossed in religious dogma. Matt Stryker will talk about the ring action and kayfabe backgrounds of the stars, while Vampiro acts as the liaison between the supernatural and the mundane.

So, when WWE does a Haunted House, we get Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton, and the announcers attempt to upsell how the dangers of a toppled refrigerator. LU has Mack vs Mil Muertes with knives, bloodshed, and MM’s evil valet taking out the beloved ring announcer and giving her the* lick of death*, all during Family Hour. In addition, the participants just seem to work harder and show more intensity. I think the setting has a lot to do with their motivations.

Same goes for Impact. They’ve got Pentagon and Cage on their roster, but they don’t have the larger-than-life personas they have in LU. Cage looks fucking scary with his massive musculature and ability to take blows to the head with glass bottles and cement blocks. He also had his head spiked from his previous encounter with Jeremiah Crane/Sami Callahan. Maybe those props are gimmicked, but they draw blood. He almost tore Pent’s mask off. Not just slipped it off a bit. He tore the fucking leather with his bare hands. That was the worst beating I’ve seen Pent take. I don’t know how they worked in the sound effect of Pent breaking Cage’s arms at the end, but of course LU is all about the extreme shit.

Yeah, but you’re comparing a tv show that’s ultimately aimed at kids, and a show that is aimed at adults. LU is going to have a more realistic view of blood and murder and hardcore stuff because it’s made for the smarks who grew up with ECW and the attitude era. It’s a more mature product.

WWE plays up its supernatural stuff (which they do WAY less of now) more for laughs and to be more childlike because their demographic is 8-10 year olds.

Neither is necessarily better than the other. You didn’t do this, but it grinds my gears whenever smarks say how much better the indies are and how WWE sucks (yet they still watch?) when they’re just two branches off the same tree.

It’s also a matter of LU being a TV show first, while WWE/TNA/most everything else is still just fundamentally a live event that happens to be broadcast on TV.

Don’t get me wrong. I still watch too much WWE. I prefer going to Indie & NXT live events over the massive WWE shows, much like the way I sometimes prefer to get a burrito from some hole-in-the-wall place with second hand furniture and chalk-written menus instead of the super fabulous restaurant chain.

So, just as a reminder, ALL IN is this Saturday. It airs at 7 PM Eastern/4 PM Pacific on PPV, with the pre-show airing on WGN an hour earlier.

As of now, the card is as follows;

  • NWA World Heavyweight Championship: Nick Aldis © vs. Cody Rhodes
  • ROH World Championship: Jay Lethal © vs. the winner of the Over Budget Battle Royale
  • Kenny Omega vs. Pentagon Jr.
  • Rey Mysterio Jr., Fenix, & Bandido vs. the Golden Elite (the Young Bucks & Kota Ibushi)
  • Kazuchika Okada vs. Marty Scurll
  • Hangman Page vs. Joey Janella
  • Christopher Daniels vs. Stephen Amell
  • Madison Rayne vs. Tessa Blanchard vs. Britt Baker vs. Chelsea Green
  • Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. SoCal Uncensored (Frankie Kazarian and Scorpio Sky)
  • The Over Budget Battle Royale; Jordynne Grace, Moose, Rocky Romero, Colt Cabana, Ethan Page, Brian Cage, Billy Gunn, Jimmy Jacobs, Marko Stunt, Brandon Cutler, Punishment Martinez +4 TBA

The battle royal and Briscoes vs. SCU will be airing on the pre-show, with the remainder on PPV.

I asked for the day off work so I could watch it live, because it’s gonna be a hell of a show and the first time in my life I’ve ever seen an NWA world title match as it happened.

I strained my shoulder posting myself on the back.

Also, got tickets for Bound for Glory. Sadly, they had sold out the first 3 rows with VIP packages. Good for them, bad for me.

Comments like this make me so sad. If Impact can sell out of tickets at other venues, it pretty much kills the chances they are coming back here and letting me see their shows for free.

So mad I didn’t make it to the last show here. I missed out on Penta and Fenix. Grrrrr

Don’t be sad. The venue holds ~400. It would be sadder if it didn’t sell out in NYC.

Wasn’t NWA bought out by Turner/WCW back in the day? I understand Billy Corrigan currently owns this fed. Was the NWA brand considered vacant and obtainable because for some reason WCW didn’t want to keep it in their storage closet?

Anyone see this? Lince Dorado Is Not A Fan Of Pre-Teen Superfan Izzy Getting Chokeslammed - Wrestlezone

Apparently “superfan” Izzy took a bump in a match…

I would think this would be the kind of thing that some state commission would get involved in…

“The version I remember was,” Turner bought out Jim Crockett Promotions, which, while it was probably the largest member of the NWA at the time, wasn’t the “entire” NWA. WCW left the NWA at some point in the early 1990s, and just changed all of its NWA titles to WCW titles. For example, David Arquette was never “NWA World Heavyweight Champion,” and I don’t think Ron Simmons was, either, when he held the WCW belt.

There was also the tournament to determine the new NWA World Champion; IIRC, Eastern Championship Wrestling’s Shane Douglas beat 2-Cold Scorpio in the final, only to throw the belt down and declare that ECW was leaving the NWA and calling itself Extreme Championship Wrestling.

Short version; the NWA never went away, it just got smaller.

The NWA wasn’t a single promotion in its heyday - it was, as the name betrays, an alliance of around 15-20 territorial promotions spread across the US (and also Mexico and Japan) that recognized a single world champion.

As noted above, when Turner bought out Crockett and created WCW, it was the largest of the NWA territories, and it controlled the world title and several other championships, but there were still other territories that hadn’t yet been killed or bought out by Vince McMahon. WCW wound up leaving the NWA as a side-effect of Ric Flair’s jumping ship for WWF while he was the reigning NWA champion. The title subsequently bounced around a few places for the following decade, with Dan Severn (of all people) holding it for 4 years at one point.

When TNA started, it affiliated itself with the NWA, and the NWA title was defended there for a few years. After that, it was controlled by ROH, then Championship Wrestling From Hollywood, then it was in Japan for awhile, and in recent years in various deep south promotions before Corgan bought the rights. Nick Aldis (formerly Magnus) is the current champion, having won it at a CZW show.

I’m pretty sure Cody is gonna win the belt at All In, as it’ll make a great moment for him to capture the same title his dad held 40 years ago.

LU had the perfect Red Wedding in Green.

Johnny Mundo had his World Wiyeeed Underground cohorts with him backstage, and Mundo’s old tag team partner from WWE, Joey Mercury, will be his best man! Only he cannot use that name, so they borrowed Johnny Gargano’s nickname and deemed him Joey Wrestling. I guess LU had to sign some consent form with WWE to use him. Who knows how much legal rambling they had to execute for 5 minutes of air time? Anyhoo, that dashed Ricky Mundo’s hopes of being best man, and the WWU made it clear Ricky and his creepy doll would stay as lowly ring bearer and NOT be considered “party of the groom.”

Last week, Ricky killed WWU’s old shady lawyer when he tried to get backstage to talk to Mundo. That’s the thing with LU. They know how to kill off lingering storylines.

So, Ricky and creepy doll had a little discussion, and she piped “You know what you have to do!” I think creepy doll’s voice is Famous B’s valet The Beautiful Brenda aka Holly Meowy. Ricky found a pair of bolt cutters and proceeded to the temple basement. He approached Matanza’s cell and cut off the chain that was secured to the cell door. Ricky then ran away, and Matanza Cobb let out a King Kong roar.

Famous B, still in the wheelchair, acts as minister to the wedding. Taya’s bridal party includes Holly Meowy and a burly chick whose name I didn’t catch, which doesn’t matter because [spolier alert] she’s a casualty. Famous B asks for the two lovebirds to exchange vows. Taya gushes, says how cool Johnny is, while Johnny responds she’s the most beautiful thing he’s ever seen, because looking at her is like looking at a reflection of himself.

Famous B asks if anyone object sto the wedding, speak now or forever hold your peace … no, it wasn’t Matanza who crashed the party, but rather Antonio Cueto, with the dead eye and corpse hair. Meowy squeaks “Aw, it’s Grandpa!” Cueto announces he has a gift for the lovely couple, and caterers bring out tables topped with … tacos. Is that racist? I get the feeling it’s racist, but in an ironic sense.

It’s time for the rings, which Ricky presents, and is then told to go away. Famous B finally gets to the last line: “I now declare you man and WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?” Now Matanza crashes the party. He fights off WWU, then brutally headbutts Taya, resulting in her face being covered in The Crimson Mask. Mat then chokeslams the aforementioned burly bridesmaid through the taco table. Taya comes back, mad as hell, and slaps Matanza. This gets her pulverized. Ricky Mundo is seen in the audience laughing. Finally, Mat sees Famous B in his wheelchair and bodyslams him, wheels included. Then he chokeslams Mrs. Mundo into the wedding cake.

The audience chants This Is Awesome!