Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1)

Kane, in 2010. It has been attempted a number of times besides then, but the briefcase holder is usually attacked by someone besides the champion before the match can begin.

Here’s a thought: what if it is cashed in right after the title match - but then (insert the name of some WWE authority figure here) announces that the MITB can be cashed in for only one of the two belts? Eventually, the two champions and DB can then have a Triple Threat Unification Match when Bryan is fit enough - say, at Survivor Series.

Zig is such an awesome worker. He adds so much more motion to his opponent’s attacks, and his long hair whips add even more. I studied animation in the past, and remember the “squash and stretch” rules. It’s one thing for a cartoon character to do it, but seeing an actual live human do the same thing makes my jaw drop.

Zig’s selling ability is probably what’s holding him back. He’s fantastic at making his opponent look good, the way Ric Flair used to be. He just needs to take the Lame-Asser out of his arsenal. :smiley:

Dont rule out too that the Authority apparently hates him and he’ll never be more than he is now.

Even being relegated to NXT to “show the kids” would probably be showing them the “wrong” things according to the Authority

The problem is his mouth and the bad timing of his injuries. Note that poorly timed injuries don’t hurt you if you’re a top guy, but if you’re not, they become an excuse not to push you to that level.

Sadly, Rick Flair specifically asked to work with Ziggler as part of his return to WWE, and they said no. They said they’d give him Miz. :smack:

I’m surprised Miz hasn’t been let go yet. He’s useless.

Never underestimate the power of someone who’s good on the mic

Oh definitely, the 'meriken Dream Dussy Rhoooodes, the Bull of the Woods if you weel, is proof of that. But that “Really” thing has gotten old. The last Miz TV segment, he and Titus sold hip tosses for Michael Strahan. Like Stephanie said, he’s the one they send to all the strip malls and high school gyms on promo tours. WWE thought they could bring in Reality TV audiences via Miz, but now that they have Total Divas for that.

Even if thats the case and they tapir him off of the “reality” angle, he’s still not TERRIBLE in the ring, and he certainly gets heat.

There is narry a superstar on the roster that gets the fan response that he does in BOTH directions. The cheers are as loud as the boos…and they’re all loud

I dunno, not going to hate on Miz. The man has done tons of TV, a handful of movies, earned through hard work the respect of his peers (who hated him to start), flown in an F/A-18, won the championship at Wrestlemania, married Maryse.

But damn it, if Rick Flair wanted to work with Nick Nemeth (Ziggler), then he should fucking well be allowed to work with Ziggler.

He could also, IMO (and IIRC, in the opinion of a few people who actually know what they’re talking about) use a new gimmick. The arrogant 1980s porn star type of thing he’s got going on now might work for a midcard heel, even a top midcard heel, but it’s not working for him as a face. That gimmick is just someone I wanna hate.

And speaking of poorly-timed injuries… Bad news for Barrett, who separated his shoulder in Pittsburgh, courtesy of Jack Swagger. :mad: Hopefully he’ll be able to stay relevant while he heals up. Maybe he can bring back that ridiculous, amazing elevated podium he was using when he was getting the gimmick over before he got back in the ring. Most importantly, I’m sure his feline friends will have lots of purrs to help him mend. :slight_smile:

Is it wrong that I’m imagining his doctor breaking it to him by saying “Mr. Barrett, I’M AFRAID I’VE GOT SOME BAD NEWS!”?

They just announced that they weren’t going to be touring with the podium due to the budget cuts. That may get changed if it’s the best way to keep him relevant.

I loved it when Barrett told the DC crowd, “your racist football team is still going to lose!”

And it happened on friggin Smackdown no less.

The good news (kinda) is that it’s a separated shoulder, which is easily popped into place, rested for a while, and then is back and ready to go.

Which shoulder was it? Bull-Hammer shoulder or the other one?

Watched MITB last night on the network. Very good show, but the ending was kind of anticlimactic. They didn’t separate the belts, and John Cena is champ for the umpteenth time.

My favorite moments:

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[li]Wyatts vs Usos—My boys Harper and Rowan lost, but they don’t need the belts to get over. [/li][li]Ambrose’s “Face or case?” His feud with Rollins is going to be epic. I was expecting a situation where Rollins is about to get the case and Ambrose spoils his efforts, but makes no effort to get the case himself because he values Rollins’s pain and humiliation over a title shot. But, there’s still time.[/li][li]Dean Ambrose superflexes Seth Rollins off the ladder—When they landed, the camera did a close-up of Ambrose’s face, and his expression was like “What the f*ck was I thinking? That HURT!”[/li][li]Rollins takes a sick bump and gets catapulted onto the ladder bridge—That just made his career.[/li][li]Rusev gets torpedo’ed by Big E and lands flat on the concrete—Shows he is more than a one-trick pony. He might actually have a lengthy career, so we get to see Lana’s ass in those tight red outfits more often.[/li][/ul]

I mostly liked MITB - I expected Cena to win since he’s the safe choice to be interim champ until he gets fed to Lesnar at Summerslam, and I was disappointed that the Wyatts didn’t win the tag titles. On the other hand, Paige vs. Naomi was one of the best women’s matches on a main roster show in ages, and there were some really impressive spots in both of the ladder matches.

The ending of the contract match pissed me off, though. Instead of having Rollins win the match through pure physical dominance, they went with a complete bullshit ending where he needed help from Kane to win the briefcase. I can understand protecting Ambrose by not having him job clean, but a heel is not a credible threat if he can’t win a match on his own - cf. Randy Orton’s recent title reign where every single title defense he had he only won because he had Kane, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, or the Big Show watching his back, and instead of looking like “the face of the WWE” he looked like a bitchy prima donna.

I agree with both parts of MITB above.

I actually don’t mind totally that Cena has the titles because it cements his legacy a bit more (as if he needed it, but he’s tied with Flair now) and we all knew that this was gonna be temporary, and it was either him or RKO, so why not him? It’ll make him losing it all the sweeter for the haters.

I always give WAY too much credit to the WWE for their storylines, but maybe having Rollins constantly get babied will piss him off and he does a face turn by having a “I can do it myself!” kind of thing? Hopefully?

Rollins and Ambrose are GOLD together. I hate that Rollins is the heel in this instance, but I love the chemistry these guys have together. Actually as I’m thinking of it, I like rooting for Ambrose too.

I am so over Kane. He’s boring, pointless, not intimidating at all, his outfit is stupid, his mask is even stupider, he’s slow, lumbering…ugh just bad. Bring back Korporate Kane he was at least interesting then.

I never rlsas ahysra…sorry about that typo, I had to wash out the gallons of blood pouring from my head. Between RKO’s head, Rusev (broo ha ha!)'s mouth this was the bloodiest PPV in a while.

Divas matches were ok I guess. Paige and Naomi was botch-a-palooza and it looked like Paige got herself good on her leg, but good for her for pulling through. Having Cameron there is pointless, just have her turn or get her out of there.

I thought this was a good PPV overall, although it didn’t feel as EPIC as PPVs tend to, it actually felt like an above average RAW to me, do you think maybe the access of it via the network makes it that way?

Let’s go Cena…

Not quite yet, actually. Cena has eleven WWE championships, three world championships, and now one undisputed championship, for a total of 15. WWE recognizes Flair as a two-time WWE champion and a 14-time world champion for a total of 16, which leaves Cena one shy of tying him.

Depending on how you count it, however, Flair’s actual number of world championships between NWA, WCW, and WWE may be as high as 26. (There was apparently a period where he and Harley Race traded the NWA title back and forth at house shows several times, which aren’t officially recognized.)

I assume they know Cena is going to be booed heavily everywhere he goes now. People will probably cheer Leaner against Cena. The crowds might even cheer Batista if he took on Cena now.

He’s always been booed pretty heavily, but for every boo there are 3 little cheers.

It’s why the “Let’s go Cena” “Cena Sucks” dynamic is so prevalent