Basically following the Green Line, with most of East Jerusalem and surrounding areas, the Etzyon Block and maybe Ariel remaining in Israeli hands - essentially, the route of the Fence - and everything else evacuated. Demilitarized (at least at start), with some sort of minimal security presence in the Jordan Valley. Right of Return to the West Bank but not to Israel.
Happy?
Do you mean the Palestinians evacuated from Israeli areas or the settlers evacuated from Palestinian areas, or both?
Settlers.
People have been waiting for a Palestinian Gandhi for about 50 years. Some people point to IDF shooting teens throwing rocks as evidence that it wouldn’t work with the Israelis the way it worked with the Brits or Americans. Unfortunately I am not aware of anyone ever trying.
If the threat of getting shot is supposed to stop civil disobediance than civil disobediance would never have gotten off the ground.
Who shoots a guy who is throwing rocks anyway?
That’s how David took out Goliath, is it not? Looks like it hurts like hell from video I’ve seem.
Perfectly. And so would the Palestinians be if you offered them that, though they would never admit it.
Ever been hit in the head with a rock?
My position is pretty much identical to that of the three major Israeli parties, including th Likud.
I thought Likud had some kind of platform promise never to recognize an independent Palestine, or something; it came up in one of the recent threads.
But Alessan was talking about Israel’s borders, not an independent and sovereign Palestine.
Damuri Ajashi, if you threw a rock at me and I had a gun in my hand, I may be tempted to shoot, but I probably wouldn’t, since I don’t load my guns with rubber bullets like the IDF.
Somehow, those rubber bullets appear to be deadly.
How many Palestinians have died as a result of a rubber bullet? Surely not as many as Muslim Israelis who died as a result of suicide attacks.*
*I’m not sure how many Arab Israelis have died as a result of Palestinian attacks, but it does happen. Still, it’s not like the IDF uses Palestinians for target practice. I’d prefer they just used paintball guns, actually. With neon colors.
Yes, they are bullets, whatever they are made of, coming out of a large firearm. I believe it is a compromise between hurting badly enough to make someone quit and killing them.
I dunno, but some Syrians or Palestinians or whoever were killed at the border just this week. Were the IDF using rubber bullets?
No, and they shouldn’t. The Syrian government let them go to the border (which is usually not allowed) and they ignored warnings (and there were plenty) and the tear gas and kept advancing - even cutting barbed wire fences.
Whoever put forth a step at that point didn’t mind dying.
There were hundreds, if not a thousand or more, protestors at the border. That wasn’t the issue. The IDF troops didn’t shoot at protestors, they shot at border jumpers - and some of those so-called ‘protestors’ had weapons.
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I’m pretttttttttttttttty sure if I threw a Molotov cocktail at a Denver police officer, he’d shoot me.**
Look, the border between Israel and Syria is a hostile border - Israel and Syria are in a state of war. Any person attempting to cross the border, either way, in or out of uniform, cab expect to be shot. Legally, it’s as clear-cut as can be.
Besides, most of them died after throwing a firebomb into a clearly marked minefield, which means that they died at the hands of Charles Darwin, not the IDF.
Well, I don’t think anything “happens next,” because Syria is too preoccupied with other matters right now to rattle a saber at Israel.
Syria’s rattling a saber at Israel and inciting border protests because it is so preoccupied. They’re encouraging anti-Israeli sentiment to deflect hostility against the regime.