Dude, you should have seen things back in the old days. For better or worse, the Pit is a shadow of what it once was.
Duke, when you and tygre left, we missed you. I wish you had just talked to us about the money, even if you didn’t know what it was used for, it’s still perfectly ok for friends to say to friends that they feel a little miffed (or worse) because you are doing better than you thought and you were having a tough time, that you feel cheated. Friends should be able to talk to each other and we did and do miss you both.
Because if you were feeling hurt, it was worth talking about. I also feel you should listen to your wife, she’s your wife (if you didn’t think she was trustworthy & sensible, you wouldn’t have married her!), but would like to hear details about the issue or issues.
Speaking for myself, I don’t feel you have irrevocably burned bridges. I’d be happy to see you back & to chat again.
I’m blown away by this forum–I spent years posting on a forum with no moderators and its got nothing on this place.
fierra: post more often, plz.
Thanks, I’ll try to, I just get so busy sometimes.
Okay. To recap. You posted without reading the op. Someone responds with some snark to the fact that your post is way off base, which you now admit it was. Instead of reading the op you doubledown, get holier than thou on his/her ass, and defensive about how great you are.
Then, as you say, “Enter the DSeid” (Gosh, makes feel so Bruce Lee-ish!) who basically says: Can’t you read the freakin’ op you maroon!
Now rather than admit that you had not bothered to read the short simple op, you instead accuse me of having some longstanding campaign of insults and personal smears against you.
Which is a delusion. Or if not actually believed, a lie. And Una, from what I can observe imagining hordes of posters constantly flinging crap at you, requiring you to create a long ignore list, is not atypical for you. This thread is as nasty as I get. (Okay I ranted as best as I could at Grossbottom once.)
Threadshitting has an actual official definition here? I plead guilty to thinking that posting something in a thread after not bothering to read the op which only touts how great you are was threadshitting and ignorance (no excuse under the law) of Dex’s directive. Given that knowledge I would not have used the phrase as it does not apply, given that official defintion. Do I need to call in a mod however to advise a poster that they are off base and should read the effing op?
In any case, in this thread’s op I apologized if my comment in the IMHO thread veered into Jr. Modding, and acknowledged that people who post to a what-if thread to say “well that what-if does not apply to me, so there” drive me a bit crazy. C’mon. If you can’t be arsed to read the friggin’ op then don’t post to the thread. Okay, one post like that, but to then get huffy when someone calls you on it with a cutsie albeit mildly snarky line? After that doubledown “What with your advanced degrees and all what part of the op’s creating the hypothetical … did you fail to understand?” was really too harsh, too snarky for IMHO? Really, such is equal to the delusional accusation that I have had some campaign against you, Una? And what was up with the odd “Dr.” bit? Yeah, I’m a pediatrician and sometimes that comes up as relevant to certain discussions, just like your profession does. It had nothing all to do with this comment. Why bring it up? The only thing it has to do with is your fragile ego in medical related threads that we have crossed swords in.
What ev’s. It bothers me enough to have made a Pit thread. It annoys me that your ego is so stinkin’ delicate that being told that you are wrong about something makes another on the enemies list. Such annoyance is however fleeting; it only ranks at all because you otherwise are a poster of knowledge who I otherwise respect.
This kind of talk is going to get you thrown right out of the pit mister.
I’m not ridiculing you; that’s been your experience, and I can’t say what has or hasn’t happened for you. That said, have you noticed this everywhere, or just the Pit? There are some humourless people here, and some people who live for the “Gotcha!” (spending way too much time trying to catch someone else doing something they think isn’t right), but outside of the Pit, I think most people here are friendly and easy to chat with. Or maybe I just know who to ignore and who to not take too seriously. 
Incorrect - you called me “scum” etc. in the Pit thread about Florida gun control and went on to be very clear about how much you disliked me. Do a Search.
Yes. I provided a link.
Dex’s note says you can’t accuse them of threadshitting and to report the post. Most people could find all sorts of other ways to get the point across.
I get your point, but your choice of metaphor is highly amusing, honestly. I lol’d.
That was one of the ‘instigating factors’, the other was your accusation of a “campaign of insults and personal slurs against” you. An accusation you’ve provided no proof of despite being asked several time.
Hey, it’s a beautiful Sunday afternoon here, and I’m going to slam the ol’ laptop closed, get off my butt and go outside.
Who’s with me?
(hmmm, a reply’d be futile… I’m outside by now, never to return.)
Why I even linked to that Pit thread in my op. You enter on this page and fairly immediately go into snark mode. Scanning the thread I see that by post 227 you have called me a liar, but still no me calling you “scum” even in response to that … ah … in post 242, after this additional screed (where the root of your ego damage in my having criticized the column about obesity is revealed) I finally respond in Pit mode and call you a twit and a dirtbag. And after multiple other insults from you and accusation of my having twisted your words, and having doe so over and over again, I do call you “pond scum.” Oooooo. In a Pit thread. After being called a liar. Yes, it was after that thread that I decided that you are not a stable person and was best avoided when possible, with, again, my IMHO comment being a rare exception. But yes, I guess I can be a little nasty.
THIS though is what you call me having a campaign against you? A thread I started in which you came in and quickly were a raving madwoman?
Any other examples of my ongoing campaign against you?
Oh perhaps it was in the Comments about Cecil’s Columns thread in which your response to my having stated that not utilizing the up to date reviews of the field had resorted in a cursory and inadequate review of the subject told me that such a comment did not belong in the forum designed for comments about the columns and should be instead be addressed “to either Cecil or his editor, Ed Zotti” and to which I did indeed respond by noting that “a serious problem at tolerating disagreement over this subject” …
Is that the campaign I have against you? The personal slurs I have made?
Really any others?
Yes, I know you fence. The metaphor was however chosen as a continuation of another poster’s choice for having disagreed with me often but finding me to be level headed and a fair debater.
I’ll be honest what I’ve learned from this thread is some people on the Dope keep running vendettas or “lists of enemies” that can span many years time.
I’m starting to have my eyes opened to the fact that a lot of people here have lots of little long-term animosities and even apparently whole other message boards where people just talk about each other. Hell, I actually had some exchanges with DSeid in the referenced firearms thread concerning some proposed Florida law…I remember that thread, but didn’t remember at all who I was specifically talking with in that thread, to me I don’t carry over arguments or animosities from one place to the other except for some extreme cases of very abhorrent posters (Der Trihs, gonzomax etc)
I find that very strange, I take most people here on a thread to thread basis, as the issues dictate.
Me too but that’s mostly because I have the memory of a leaky sieve.
Honestly I hadn’t remembered that Una had called me a liar in that thread until this review. (Looking for what she was talking about that I had once called her “scum.”) Only then did I recall that it was her off the wall attacks in that thread that convinced me to try to avoid her in the future, outside of energy threads, and then treading very cautiously. (I have no one on ignore but she is one of only two that I try to avoid contact with.)
I had linked to that thread because she had claimed that some Pit thread in which she “owned” me had resulting in a campaign of insults and smears that she imagines I’ve been engaged in. I can only recall that Pit thread as one in which we crossed paths, so figured that somehow that must be the one she imagines she “owned” me in. And indeed, after being called a liar, being told how snarky I have been to her, and how insulting I had been to her in the past, especially by criticizing the obesity column as inadequate in the inappropriate venue of the forum devoted to doing that, I did compose one of my very rare Pit-worthy posts. I must say, I didn’t think I had it in me! I guess that set of two posts is my campaign.
But yeah, there is a lot of strange drama with some people here. And apparently not-here by those who feel the need to be catty about here. Which is fine … but keep me out of those goddamn delusions. Hell, I don’t think even my wife has fantasies that involve me.
So, a decade or so ago when all you long time Dopers joined did you start hating each other immediately, or did it take a little while?
I tried to hate, and I even started a list of people I considered jerks, but I sort of lost the spirit for it after putting one or two names on it. It just didn’t seem worth the bother, and I don’t even remember who I listed on it.
I’ve got enough challenging personalities in my day to day meatlife that I need to deal with. Some of which are suing me, or threatening to kill me. There’s no need to be pissed at people here.
Well, there’s an extended interim period of kvetching and backbiting, moving on to irritation and annoyance before the slow, gradual process of building up to heartfelt loathing can occur.
It takes time to get to know people.
On the other hand, there are posters you’re sure you dislike based on years of experience and then they go and say something nice about you, which really screws things up royally.
I trust no one. :dubious:
Me too, ya’ prick.
(OK, we’ll be friends in the next thread. :D)
Seriously, this thread is a travesty.
It took a little while, in most cases.
I really do hate the guy who threatened to rape my daughter in front of me and then kill me, though.