Anyone else see Tom Cruise on "Today" this morning?

I absolutely agree. Normally I try and seperate an artist’s personal beliefs from his or her art, but in Cruise’s case, I can’t. I refuse to ever see one of his films (in the theater, on TV, on DVD, etc.) ever again.

I will not put one fuzzy dime into this f*cker’s pocket ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever again. And I’m on the verge of saying the same for Katie Holmes as long as she stays with him. Which is a shame because I reeeeeeally wanted to see the new Batman.

Happy

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it yet again: Bono made Jesse Helms cry. JESSE HELMS. After that, Bono will always be a hero in my book. And yeah, the guy didn’t grow up in Africa, but he DID grow up in Northern Ireland, which isn’t exactly Grover’s Corners.

Apparently he hasn’t done all that much research, if he doesn’t know that anti-psychotics and anti-depressants are two completely different things. A BLOOD TEST for doses? What the hell? And I believe you can overdose on vitamens, can’t you?

I love how he, a high school drop out, as I understand, it somehow more knowledgable on psychology than Brooke Shields, a freaking Princeton grad.
Oh, and apparently, the National Mental Health Association is speaking out against him. (I wrote to the contact e-mail above and let them know that they had a lot of support behind them).

As for Holmes, according to a Salon article, her parents had told their fellow parishioners that Katie wasn’t converting. Then she did. BAM!

Can we invite Tom to come to the SDMB and crush him here? I’d LOVE to see him say, “I did the research, you didn’t” in GD, and then be slaughtered by the wrath of a (teeming) million Dopers coming in listing degrees and books they’ve read.
That would be sweet.

If it helps you justify seeing the new Batman movie…she DID make the flick before she’d ever met Cruise!

Yes Cruise is being a bit looney.

But…

If his first statement was the Kirstie Alley should have prayed to Jesus instead of taking anti-depresents, the press would not be bringing this issue up again and again. We know he is a Scatologist and we know what their beliefs are, so why ask him. The loons who saw the Virgin Mary in the salt stain were not thought of as loons by the main stream media.

That would make him a Christian Scientist or somesuch, a looney of a different stripe but still looney in the eyes of mainstream society. Modern medicine and psychiatry are well-accepted today. People who dismiss them as total quackery, like Cruise did, no matter their religious beliefs, are generally considered looney.

And it was Brooke Shields, not Kirstie Alley, who happens to be another scientologist who eschews psychiatry (I assume, as this is pretty much a basic tenet of Hubbardism).

Go, its soooo good! Holmes is far outshone by everyone in the film (when you have a film featuring the cabiler of male stars it does its hard not to be) and she is teh hawtness in it. Do it for the nipples! The nipples!

I’d be careful with that bet, if I were you. Cruise is small enough to be carried to the summit in a Sherpa’s backpack!

Don’t make light of his size. He did not choose to be that way.

Hubberdism on the other hand. Feel free.

from IMDb

BURN!

Regarding the OP…

I used to defend Mr. Cruise quite a bit. I like a lot of movies he’s in and I sort of felt obligated to have his back. Not anymore. Ever since his whole 'mental illness can be cured by diet, excercise, and a membership to scientology (however the eff it works) thing, I’ve become pretty upset with him and refuse to defend the SOB any more.

He seems a bit manic. Some good psychiatric drugs may do him some good.

Craig Ferguson just spent the first 5 minutes of his show ranting about this.

“If this show ever becomes a hit and I become a celebrity, my cause is going to be preventing celebrities from going on about stuff they don’t know shit about.”

Or words to that effect. The rant was well-received.

I’m beginning to wonder if perhaps Mr. Mapother has recently gone off his own meds as this is totally some stuff somebody who’s decompensating would do.

As for a Christian saying another celebrity should pray rather than medicate, I’ve no doubt whatever that it would make just as big a stink. You just don’t dispense medical advice whether you’re a snake handler or a Moonie wid-out ja gotta license. (I’ve become just as furious at televangelists advising people not to take psychotropics because “you’re hearing demons and Jesus can help you” [Jeff Fenholt particularly has preached this]).

I wonder if Tom read the EW interview in which his comments on Jung were corrected. (Of all the loopy things Jung said and did, Tom is enough of a dumbass to choose something fake- plus, I wonder if he ever considered that even if Jung had been a swastika waving proud charter member of the Nazi Party that it wouldn’t in and of itself invalidate his research (it’s called ad hom and it’s easy to remember sweety because it rhymes with Lad Tom).

I just dismiss him for his shitty music.

Brilliant observation, well put.

Yeah, that’s even more spurious than if someone used Wernher von Braun’s Nazi past to support an argument that the Apollo missions were bunkum.

Oh, wait…

Heh. In Cruise’s case, however, it’s somewhat understandable. Supposedly his dyslexia (until $¢iento£og¥[sup]®[/sup] cured him of it:rolleyes: ) was so bad that he was completely illiterate. Many schools often have trouble dealing with kids who have mild developmental problems, so it’s possible that his education was so botched because of this it made more sense for him to bail than stay in. (Obviously, however, he didn’t proceed to the next logical step of hiring a private tutor and getting his GED, AFAIK.)

Oh, and for Og’s sake, Happy, go see the new Batman movie. It’s a great film, period. Not simply a great “Batman film”, or a great “comic book film,” but a great film, in general. I’d be surprised if even people who normally hate such films, didn’t like it. Yes, it’s that good.

On the plus side of the whole thing (and as pointed out by the NYT article), his off-script comments and attitude set Lauer right back on his heels. Lauer came off as unprepared and ill-informed, which is the case with most talk-show interviewers, regardless of subject. If one is going to pretend to be a journalist, one should probably prepare for the interview.

Al Roker posted a blog about this whole situation on the Today Show Site.

I always liked that guy. I still do.

You know what I can’t wait for: The Soup to tear this guy a new one. The episode when they talked about his appearance on Oprah still cracks me up:

-And then things got weird.
-And you get a Katie! And you get a Katie! And you get a Katie! And you get a Katie! Everybody gets a Katie!

Al Roker, never really paid much attention to the guy, but those are some good thoughts.

Dreamworks must be absolutely freaking right now. That confrontation, what, 3 days before release of War of the Worlds? Bad timing Tom. I now know that there is such a thing as bad publicity.