This thread has been depressingly mean-spirited. More so because I like so many of the posters. ::sigh::
I agree. This is certainly the most mean-spirited thread I have seen in my short time here. I don’t understand it either. I have had a relationship, which if I exaggerated some details I could write about in a similar way to Skew’s story. There is nothing in his writing style which makes me think he is more than 18. I wrote stories just as well when I was his age (which wasn’t that long ago). There is nothing offensive about the story. He has not written about having sex with the girl, and he is not the agressor in the relationship. How is there anything wrong with this? My first girlfriend had to virtually trick me into kissing her. I just matured slowly - in fact males mature more slowly than females. Are the inexplicable attacks on Skew being made because you feel bad about yourself? If so, don’t. Everybody is different. Is it because you are just angry about a fictional story? If so, there is no proof that the story is fictional and personally I believe it is mostly true. Is it because you are jealous? Skew’s relationship doesn’t seem perfect to me. Even though it has been going well there is nothing that suggests he and PJ girl will get married and live happily forever after. It’s just a relationship between a slowly sexually maturing male, and a girl who likes that kind of guy probably because she enjoys being sexual herself without having the guy all over her. There is nothing wrong with his story, and I think there is something very wrong with how you are treating him.
Look, either it’s fiction or not
A) If it’s fiction and he’s passing it off as fact, he’s tapdancing towards the “jerk” category, IMHO. Again I’ll reference the LittleTassie debacle and she’s not the only one. One doesn’t need to steal money to be a scammer. So far, no-one has told me how (if it’s fiction) it differs from what LittleTassie did, or what BooBoosTigress (“My beloved is in the hospital”) did or what other emotional scammers did. Happy scam or sad scam, it’s still an emotional scam. Playing with people’s emotions isn’t nice.
B) If it’s fact, he’s giving off a creepy vibe to me by spreading far too much intimate detail about someone he says he likes. Ever heard the phrase “Gentlemen don’t kiss and tell”? He’s going WAY beyond that. Do you suppose that she’d want 20,000 people (minimum) to know that she likes Skewy’s penis? And the argument that it’s OK for him to violate his beloved’s privacy because it’s unlikely she’ll find out is beneath contempt.
Fenris
Must be a short time; this is nothing. In fact, for the most part it’s been pretty polite, despite a little melting down from a few folks. No big deal.
Look, I don’t believe Skewbald’s story is true, either. It’s not one particular thing; it’s ALL of them. By themselves any one of the objections raised so far is not a big deal, but collectively they make it extraordinarily unlikely. I don’t think there is anything wrong with people using the Pit to question the veracity of a story someone is representing as the truth. If we think it’s bullshit, are we supposed to pretend we think it’s true in order to placate your or Skewbald’s feelings? I don’t agree with Fenris that Skewbald is committing a major offense, but I don’t see anything wrong with stating that you don’t believe it’s a true story.
While the “Don’t Be A Jerk” rule applies to the Pit, the Pit IS the place for saying things like this. That’s why the Pit is here; to separate this stuff from everything else. SDMB is a place I think we should be able to be extremely frank and honest without being jerks. There is nothing jerky about questioning a dubious tale being presented as truth, as long as you put it in the right forum. This is the right forum.
Yep, the Pit is the place to say things like this. I don’t even argue that nobody has the right to say what they have, or that they don’t have what they believe are good reasons. That doesn’t change my opinion about it being mean-spirited. Frankly, it’s just been damn depressing.
You really can’t piss on a parade and expect people to be grateful for the rain.
If I do say so myself - “Way to go Dinsdale!”
In my thread on this topic I think I may have actually committed subtlety for the first time in my life!
Now excuse me while I go back and re-read the sun tan lotion bit. Oops, gotta lock the office door. And grab a tissue.
Uh no. This is the Straight Dope. One of the the things that sets us apart from most of the other internet communities is that we don’t blindly accept everything that comes our way as being truth.
It’s your prerogative to believe the story or even play along and read it for the entertainment value. However, don’t assume - especially on THIS board that everyone will nicely nod their heads and not voice their skepticism.
FWIIW, I think the story sounds like it was written by the over active imagination of a middle aged, dirt wife-beater tank top wearing, perv with a sexual fetish for young girls.
Heh. Good thread. Really good to see people not reading anything between the lines and getting personal.
Do I believe him? No, but who really gives a shit what I think.
I had that happen on my first date with a “girl” when I was 18. Mind you, I also got a BJ from her about 5 minutes before. Classy girl… not. Fun to be with, but not one to come home to every day for the rest of your life.
Maybe its something about us in “Northern Countries”.
FWIW - I don’t think there is any “witch-hunt” here. I see just the “investigative nature” of the board working they way it usually does. Like it or not, thats the way it is. Oh well. Carry on.
Sorry if this has been said already; I don’t have the patience to read the whole thread. Has anyone considered what a black haired girl would look like in see-through white pyjamas and no underwear?
I’ll give it a shot. Damn - now I need another tissue. Doesn’t look like I’ll be getting much work done today!
What has he really told us about her? Not much. Would you really be horrified if people found out you had made a remark that had a sexual innuendo? Oh no! People know I jokingly talked about someone’s anatomy! How can I go on!? Everything Skew has written seems like he is just trying to increase his confidence by creating a version of events that suggests that PJ girl likes him more than he thinks she does.
There is nothing necessarily jerky about it, but it is very easy to be jerky about it if you want to, which many of you obviously do.
Wow, I was so wrong about anyone being mean spirited.
:rolleyes:
It’s one thing not to believe the story. Maybe you think it is too perfect? I don’t agree, it is far from a perfect relationship, Skew seems scared PJ girl doesn’t like him that much and is probably writing the story to increase his confidence. Maybe you think it is too sexual? I haven’t read anything about them having sex, and Skew has said that he agrees it would be wrong to write about that. What I have read is about PJ girl trying to disarm the sexual tension by doing other things besides sex. Oh no, what a horrible slandering of the girl. :rolleyes: Which brings us to another argument I have seen here, that it is not sexual enough and a real relationship would have gone farther… your arguments just start to get foolish because they contradict each other. It’s too perfect, not perfect at all, too sexual, not sexual enough, too happy, too sad that he would write about it… And then you make jerky comments about the poor guy that you have absolutely no reason to say. There is nothing wrong with the story. It’s only a question of if you believe it. If not, sure, say so and explain why. But if you come in making comments about middle aged perverts you should be aware that you are revealing a lot more about yourself than about Skew.
Okay, check out his post in this thread. He of all people doesn’t get it?
Sarcasm is a powerful tool, young Padwan. You must only use it in limited amounts for it to have any effectiveness. Still, very good for a first try.
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Unless, y’know…he’s engaging in emotional manipulation and lying about the story (the bit about the Magic Horsie* and the bit about Pirate Island are what broke my suspension of disbelief) . But other than that…
I’m amused by the fact that the “Troo believers” in Skewy’s story are beginning to sound like $cientologists…“Xenu?! There’s no such thing as Xenu. We’re not a cult! You’re all being mean” :: sticks fingers in their ears :: “LALALALALAICANTHEARYOU MEANSPIRITED PEOPLE! LALALALALA”
Believe in Magical Ponies on the beach if you want (th’ only way I’d believe that story is if the ending went something like this:
I thought she was asleep, I was on the brink of sleep myself, but when a horse galloped by down by the braking waves she perked up. It was so cute, the curious joy on her face. We watched the magical moment together, and she commented that my penis was much nicer than the horse’s.
Less than a minute after the horse had disappeared from view, a heavyset man, in a bowler hat, his shirtsleeves rolled up and wearing suspenders came running up at top speed (which wasn’t great, since he was wearing shoes while running in the sand).
" 'ey! You kids seen an 'orse go by 'ere?" He puffed, an unlit stogie in his mouth.
“Why yes!” said PJGirl “The most beautiful and magical wild pony galloped by. It was a perfect moment. And it’s penis was far less interesting to me than” she glanced at me “his.”
“You h’idiots! There h’ARE no wild ponies in Ultima Thule! H’it was h’obvious that 'e was a runaway!” he shouted “Y’ could’ve stopped 'im! Why didn’t you? Punks.” and he ran off, after his pony.
PJGirl and I grinned at each other. Our love was stronger than the anger of the gentleman with the inexplicably bad Cockney accent. We knew, we’d be together always!
Fenris
Ooooh!
Forget that last paragraph! I thought of a FAR more believable ending!
“You h’idiots! There h’ARE no wild ponies in Ultima Thule! H’it was h’obvious that 'e was a runaway!” he shouted “Y’ could’ve stopped 'im! Why didn’t you try to help, punks?”
“Show me where that’s my problem?” I said, cockily
With an angry comment, he ran off after his pony.
I took PJGirl home and as she kissed me goodnight and told me how lovely my penis was, it was like a thousand and one strings playing a single perfect tune. I was almost walking on air as I got home. As I turned the corner to the street where I lived, I saw police barracades all along. I ran towards my house.
A policeman stopped me. “Son…there’s no way to make this easy on you. Your Uncle?” he put his hand on my shoulder “He’s the victim of a hit-and-gallop. But we have the perp trapped in an abandoned warehouse a few blocks from here.”
I couldn’t believe it! Uncle Ben had raised me. And to see him there, dead and covered with hoofmarks…I saw red! Someone was gonna pay. And it just might be me!
I knew that warehouse, though! It was a Pirate Warehouse and like Pirate Island, only I knew about the secret entrance.
I ran those two blocks, the longest of my life, filled with anger. How could I make whoever did this to Uncle Ben pay? I snuck in the secret entrance: I could hear the police on their bullhorns “YOU IN THERE! COME OUT WITH YOUR HOOVES UP! THIS IS THE POLICE” I snuck closer to the murderer of my Uncle. There, illuminated by the spotlight…
“NnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOO!” I screamed! For it was the very same pony PJGirl and I had seen on the beach!
My scream startled it and it ran foward…into a hail of police bullets. The pony that murdered my uncle was dead. But what was to become of me? If only I had stopped the pony, I could have saved my uncle! This, for me, would be the beginning. I would patrol the streets looking for stray animals and returning them to their owners! In that small way, I could make up for what my negligence had done to Uncle Ben. For with great power comes great responsibility.
Fenris Lee and Fenris Ditko
It escapes me why so many people are negative about this. Basically, I agree with what Nightime said.
Unless something has changed, I didn’t see where Skewbald claimed the horse on the beach was riderless. Is a person riding a horse down the beach near a resort area that unusual? I’ve seen it before.
Most major estuarine systems have dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of small islands. Usually these are not inhabited on a permanent basis because there’s not a source of fresh water to drink. What’s the problem with a small island existing and not being occupied?
I owned and operated my own skiff at age 14. I don’t see why the idea of an 18 year old having access to a small boat is considered outlandish.
It’s a neat little tale, and I hope he keeps posting to it.
Skepticism != Negative
Thank you Fenris. That is precisely my point. it IS a neat little tale…but that’s exactly what I believe it is…a tale. I don’t believe it’s true and I think it’s childish of Skew to keep perpetuating it as such.
Perhaps because if he said “this is a story I’m writing for True Romance Magazine” the thread wouldn’t get as many views? Interesting.
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Fenris…
That was just plain odd, man…
I think I need to go lie down for a while…
If it’s bothering some of you so much, why read it? To this day I’ve only read the original first post, and even then that was only because of the hullabaloo about it.
I don’t know if it’s true, don’t care. I also don’t really care if anyone believes it or they don’t. You either think it’s BS, you don’t, or you don’t care.
But it does disturb me about how personal some of you are getting.
Huh?
I don’t get the connection to the thread you link to.
