April Foolishness Haggle. [Game in progress]

Well, if NAF want to set the auction up that way, then he’s entitled to change it thus. Talk to him.

That does introduce an element of risk for him, though, because if he doesn’t get enough for the items he auctions off, someone who does NOT participate in the auction could overtake him. :slight_smile:

The way things stand, the auction doesn’t happen unless everybody agrees to the 50% buy-in, bid or no bid.

Just Some Guy
Holds rules: 16
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 4, 8, 11, 12, 14, 15, 17
And holds these coins: NONE.

Mahaloth
Holds rules: 1, 15, 16
Has seen rules: 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14
And holds these coins: 3 Dimes, 4 Nickels, 3 Pennys

Meeko
Holds rules: 4, 8, 9, 10
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 5, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17
And holds these coins: 1 Nickel, 3 Quarters
Has an extra copy of rule 9

MHaye
Holds rules: 1, 11, 12, 15
Has seen rules: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14, 17
And holds these coins: 2 Dimes, 2 Nickels, 1 Penny

NAF1138
Holds rules: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 13, 14
Has seen rules: 1, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 17
And holds these coins: 5 Dimes, 3 Fifty Cents, 4 Nickels, 2 Pennys, 1 Quarter, 1 Silver Dollar, 1 Toonie

Oredigger77
Holds rules: 5, 13, 17
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15
And holds these coins: 1 Dime, 3 Pennys, 4 Quarters

phi2dao
Holds rules: 1, 2, 3, 14, 17
Has seen rules: 4, 5, 8, 9, 11
And holds these coins: 1 Dime, 1 Penny, 2 Quarters, 1 Silver Dollar

sinjin
Holds rules: 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 14
Has seen rules: 1, 2, 5, 8, 9
And holds these coins: 1 Nickel, 5 Pennys, 1 Quarter
Has an extra copy of rule 7

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WHAT HAS PHI VOTED?**
That is why this auction stinks to high heaven.

After that, I decline the auction as it stands now.

**The Auction demands that everyone is still active.

And that they can makes heads or tails out of the flawed valuation scheme this entire game has been.

The auction sucks on it’s own, and it’s made worse by the rule set. **

Yes. The auction doesn’t have to happen, MHaye just had to say yes.

Ok, first. The auction requires that everyone vote yes because then no one is actually giving up anything. If everyone chucks away 50% then the playing field stays level for everyone. You say you don’t want to give away 50% of anything, but you aren’t actually giving anything up if everyone agrees. All you are doing is halving the value of each item and bonus. I can see not wanting to have the auction for other reasons, but saying it’s because of the 50% thing fails to think the issue through.

I will consider releasing JSG from the requirement. If you guys want to make the case to chrisk that phi is absent, that’s on you.

Second, you don’t bid your points to me or anyone. They are bid against your own final score. The auction lasts until damn near the end of the game, so if you want to figure out the rule set before you bid, trade away and figure it out.

The auction requires that everyone vote yes because then no one is actually giving up anything. If everyone chucks away 50% then the playing field stays level for everyone.

I concede this point.

You say you don’t want to give away 50% of anything, but you aren’t actually giving anything up if everyone agrees. All you are doing is halving the value of each item and bonus. I can see not wanting to have the auction for other reasons, but saying it’s because of the 50% thing fails to think the issue through.

Again, abstracting the auction to this level proves your point.

I will consider releasing JSG from the requirement. If you guys want to make the case to chrisk that phi is absent, that’s on you.

Understandable. However, will JSG still get to BID then? Or can we motion to have JSG as a DNF ?

Second, you don’t bid your points to me or anyone. They are bid against your own final score. The auction lasts until damn near the end of the game, so if you want to figure out the rule set before you bid, trade away and figure it out.
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But, what if someone bids, THEN learns a rule that turns everything they thought on it’s head?

Which, This is the End Game, I think we all know what a substantial part of the rules do to the other substantial part of the rules.

I would advise that players get as many rules before the auction.

Rules make Haggle what Haggle is. The Items are just a vehicle for the rules.

Meeko Offer AC - 1
[FYI : AB 2.75 and AB 3.75 Remain OPEN]

I will trade my nickel for three of your pennies.
AC - 2

Selling my 9 for 2 quarters.

This is for BOTH rule 9s.

Both 9’s must be accepted in this offer (By One, or two parties), or the deal in it’s entirety is withdrawn,

Until we get a second acceptance, I reserve the right to also withdraw the offer for any reason.

Withdraw AC - 2

AC - 2.5

Selling my 9 for 2 quarters.

This OFFER is repeated so that** the price is 2 quarters EACH on Rule 9**.
Both 9’s must be accepted in this offer (By One, or two parties), or the deal in it’s entirety is withdrawn,

Until we get a second acceptance, I reserve the right to also withdraw the offer for any reason.

A nickel for three pennies.

You can’t beat that!

Mahaloth:

NOT an Offer:

Can you give me change for a quarter? If I were to you know, offically ask ?

MHaye: What about you? Are you able to give me change for my quarter, if I asked?

OK.

I accept MHaye Offer 14

By the way, I forgot to “bluify” the offer in the first place; it was supposed to be official. :slight_smile:

Sinjin: Would you give me $0.10 if I gave you $0.25 ?

NOT AN OFFER (Yet)

Mahaloth, can you give me change, if I asked?

I might be able to. Why do you want to make change for one. Is it just 1 Quarter?

What would you accept?

Nevermind. I don’t think I can.

I should have asked before responding.

Mahaloth, make me an offer on making change for my quarters.

Offer Mahaloth-Change-1

Mahaloth:

I will give you one quarter for two of your dimes, and one of your nickles.

Nope, sorry.