Yes, indeed, that is real-life innovation.
But the crap that comes out of alien believers’ mouths about the hidden secret tech the “government” has gotten from aliens is not real life.
We’re in full agreement on this.
I just want to take back the “bleak” part from this concept.
Aliens visiting and disappearing would demonstrate that:
- Interstellar travel and more is possible with technological progress
- There’s at least one inhabited world to visit*
- At least one advanced species is nominally peaceful
It would probably herald a golden age of scientific and engineering progress.
* self-nitpick: “world” here does not necessarily mean “planet”…there could be only one ETI, that just lives in space
Also, while I am taking stuff back, a lot of my posts towards @Voyager read as very hostile. Sorry Voyager, I don’t know why I write like that.
We may find out tomorrow:
Does anyone have a clear idea as to why, all of a sudden, there’s so much UFO buzz? Is there in fact any reason to be more or less skeptical/believing today than, say, 5 years ago?
(with toungue firmly in cheek)
If the internet has taught us nothing else, its that with increased technology comes increased trollishness. So I think that even if we have nothing else to offer advance civilization there is always the possibility of our being a new an different being to be an asshole to. Or in other words like Douglas Adams explained
Ford Prefect: Teasers are rich kids with nothing to do. They cruise around the galaxy looking for planets that no one’s made contact with and buzz them.
Arthur Dent: Buzz them?
Ford Prefect: Yeah. They find some isolated spot, land by some unsuspecting soul that no one’s ever going to believe and strut up and down in front of them, making beep-beep noises. Rather childish really.
The garbage that the History Channel puts out is responsible in many ways.
I mean, there’s definitely a very specific individual “whistleblower” who is testifying in some congressional hearing tomorrow. So it’s more than just general History Channel buzz. What’s a bit unclear to me is where he falls on the conman/overblown-misunderstood-claims/maybe-actually-knows-something-interesting scale. Certainly people on reddit are absolutely convinced that tomorrow is The Day in a way that I don’t think I’ve seen before… but maybe that’s just social media doing it’s misinformation clustering thing.
heh it used to be the syfy channel until the ghosts became more popular…
Yes, David Grusch, who has no first-hand testimony to give, but has plenty of second and third hand testimony, some of which he seems to have acquired from Travis Taylor from the History Channel. I rest my case.
He is just Bob Lazar v2.0. No evidence, no proof, never really seen anything himself, but he just knows so much because so many people have told him things. People who are rightfully afraid of losing their jobs! Because maybe they shouldn’t be talking to this nut. All he really has is conspiracy gossip. And a budding career on the talk show/lecture circuit.
He’s today testified before Congress that the government have recovered non-human biological pilots from crashed craft.
Why on Earth is this guy testifying before Congress? I watched a short video of him last month and it was clear within thirty seconds that he was a crackpot.
Does this guy seem credible to you?
The question isn’t whether Grusch is credible, it is whether his sources are credible. If he has been told a catalogue of rumours and third-hand accounts, we can’t blame him if they are not true.
We can blame him for believing the third-hand accounts. No-one has to believe everything they are told.
As I understand it, Grusch claims no first-hand knowledge of any UFO technology, sample recovery, sighting, or anything else - he’s just passing on what he’s heard others say.
But that Telegraph video is certainly cut to make it sound like he’s stating things based on personal knowledge.
Am I the only one bothered by this? I don’t know whether to blame him or the Telegraph.
Manny people told him and now he believes. 
That was among numerous claims in Phil Corso’s book about the supposed saucer crash near Roswell, NM. It’s a great read, but it’s too difficult to believe.
From the clips I’ve seen of his testimony today, he is not just neutrally relaying what other people have recounted to him - he is a believer. When he was asked about alien craft causing harm to humans, he said what he and his wife had witnessed was “very disturbing”.
Reminds me of the post-apocalypse story “Half the Battle”.
Set in a post-Apocalyptic southwestern United States, over the course of five brief segments, the story follows the recovery of technology starting in the kingdom of Canoga, and then rapidly traces humanity’s rediscovery of flight through the development of the Messerschmitt and the space shuttle. It ends with the launching of the first starship, built based on the designs found in a long hidden book: implicitly, a Star Trek guidebook, in keeping with the theme of Stardate .
The society re-invents technologies based on the remnants of books and other media, because just knowing that something is possible gives them the motivation to try to do it themselves.
This guy is just the latest in a long line of “whistleblowers” who do nothing more than repeat “I know a guy who knows a guy” stories. His stories, as others have mentioned, are really no different than what we’ve heard before this.
What makes this different is that, now, the GOP is holding power, and conspiracy theories have become a mainstay of a whole lot of their supporters. So they’re pandering to their base by acting like these CTs have some merit. If the GOP politicians were to try to tell their supporters that this shit isn’t real, they’d get their faces eaten by their own leopards.