She’d also been tortured prior to watching the destruction of her home planet. She may have just been having a bit of an “off” day when they showed up.
nah, shes pretty much a bitch in all 3 films…
Post-traumatic stress from being tortured and then watching your entire homeworld be blown to bits isn’t something you just “snap out of”.
Can we agree that “sexist” and “misogynist” are not synonyms?
Misogynists hate women. All misogynists are sexists.
But plenty of sexist people aren’t misogynists. There are lots of sexists who love women and being around women. Heck, there are plenty of sexists who believe women are superior to men.
Having nutty ideas about women makes you sexist, it might or might not make you misogynist.
Leia sure comes off er speciesist, or whatever you’d call it. I’m sure calling Wookies walking carpets is their version of a racist slur.
She also called Han the “N” word, in anger.
That is true.
Yes, but only because sexist can include hating men. I view the hole “hatred” thing to be like those who say they aren’t racist because they don’t hate people of other races.
Something that is sexist against women is misogynist. Something that is sexist against men is misandrist. I see no reason to distinguish between really hating women (or men) and thinking they are inferior. All that succeeds in doing is making misogynist a word you can’t use.
Why? He’s just Han Solo having grown up a bit. I know a lot of people who would say stuff like that when they were young but now won’t, and yet they still seem like the same person. They’re just less brash.
The idea that you must be slightly misogynist to be the Flash Gordon Hero character is silly. Though maybe that will be what Han has to deal with–it’s a nice character arc to figure that out.
Solo’s a’ight. Jones is a chauvinist prick, but then so are 90% of action heroes (100% if we restrict ourselves to the 80s-90s).
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That said, your opinion of Han Solo might change a little bit when you realize his real world equivalent is a cross border trucker who won his rig in a shady poker game, frequently works for drug cartels, and killed a guy in a bar.
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In cahoots with illegal emigrants, too.
I’m not a fan of the word “misogynist”. Normally, I think you’ve lost the argument when you start using that word.
But that scene where IJ is lecturing to a room full of immature undergraduates (and one gay guy) all hopelessly infatuated with him… at some point, you’ve gonna start hating people like that.
So yes, based on that one scene alone, I’ve got to suspect that Indiana Jones is misogynist.
She must always have been like this. When Tarkin says “Charming to the last” you can tell this isn’t the first time he’s had to deal with this particular type of charm.
You don’t want to undermine how a father disciplines his children. Well, at least a long time ago you didn’t.
It’s kind of her fault that the planet was blown up.
When Tarkin says “Continue with the operation. You may fire when ready… Dantooine is too remote to make an effective demonstration.” what he is really saying if you read between the lines is “We are in the DEATH STAR in orbit over your home planet yet it’s more important to you to hit they guy with his finger on the trigger with stench smack then protect the lives of billions of people. So if anyone asks you ‘what ever happened to Alderaan?’ you can tell them that this is on you.”
Jeez Princess, I guess you never heard that you can catch more flies with honey then vinegar.
Beggin’ your pardon, but I feel you’re kind of missing the point of Lemur’s argument on the complexities of bias and prejudice.
Or that you’re taking two paragraphs to say “nuh uh.”