Read that as “pedestry” first time.
My 03 Accord sedan v-6 (all options) has 161k miles on it and is ultra reliable. AC and power steering have needed repairs over the years, but considering how much I drive it, it is a real champ. Next car will be an Accord sedan with all the trimmings.
I have a 2007 Honda pilot with 70,000 miles and it has never needed any repair of any kind. I’ve changed the oil a dozen or so times and given it a set of tires and a battery (the battery was under warranty, they only last a few summers in Arizona). It has been a great car and I have no complaints.
If I wrecked it tomorrow I think I’d shop around a bit though. Hyundai and Kia have come a long way in the last 10 years and I have heard good reviews from people who own similar midsize crossovers and they’re a lot less expensive. Brand new does seem to be the way to go, I always bought used before but now it seems new cars are only depreciating a couple thousand dollars in the first 50,000 miles.
IIRC there has also been issues with premature rear brake wear. I remember it spawning a thread.
I’m on my phone so I’ll search later when I am at home.
Honda’s biggest sin in recent years has been converting their entire lineup into soul-less, boring griefboxes.
Mine seems to have finicky TPMS sensors that go on the blink at the first speed bump/pothole. A pain, since the dealer has to get an authorization to replace and reprogram under warranty. Other than that it is giving great service but it’s still relatively new.
So… Perfect for driving to work? :dubious:
Boring perhaps, but why would you call solid dependable transport a “griefbox”?
2008 Accords are bad. Way below Honda standards. I should know I have one. So far I have had these issues at only 60,000 miles:
Transmission problem recall
camshaft problem
Rear brakes worn out - 2 times
The brake wear problem was so bad Honda settled a class action suit over it. They made the car bigger and the rear brake pads smaller - a recipe for pads only lasting 20k miles.
I am going to sell this car soon since I don’t want to see what might go wrong in the future.
Here is the thread on brake wear, and the pit thread it spawned.
You know I am still upset about being bashed by some people I’ve never met in person! In fact I may not be able to sleep tonight after reading that thread again!
Sucks to be you I guess.
Used car prices are absolutely nuts right now. Late models sell within a few grand of a new car. Even if you straight-line depreciate them from new MSRP to the junkyard after 17 years / 250k miles it is cheaper to buy new.
Honda manual transmissions are exceptionally durable. Honda automatics aren’t. Get the manual. The V6/manual coupe is SHOCKINGLY fast, merge-onto-freeways-doing-a-buck-ten fast, and the steering itself is as good as a Miata’s. It doesn’t handle like a Miata, but the steering tells you just as much about the road.
I have a 2000 Accord coupe, purchased new. I had the transmission replaced under warranty; although it drove fine, it would make a loud thunk whenever I backed up 20 feet out of my parking space. The new transmission has been fine ever since then. The other main problem I’ve had is the dashboard instrument panel has an issue where the needles bounce around all crazy from time to time. Oh, and Honda’s are notorious for clearcoat delamination with age. With 200K+ miles now, I would like to sell it and get into a 4-door/ hatchback/ small SUV.
I would suggest looking at a recent Ford Fusion (or its platform mates, the Mercury Milan and Lincoln Zephyr/MKZ), if you are shopping for a mid-size sedan. It has had good reliability scores from both JD Power and Consumer Reports since it was released in MY 2006, and a Fusion is usually a few grand less than an Accord of the same year/mileage.
The Fusion post respectable fuel economy and performance figures, and doesn’t seem to have any glaring faults elsewhere. The Accord is in a similar boat.
The question I would ask is about durability. We put 254K miles on our 1986 Accord, and our 2000 Accord has 203K miles on it, and still going strong. The idea that an Accord wouldn’t last 200K+ miles is all but inconceivable to us. Can you say that about the Ford Fusion? (Hell, can you say that about any Detroit product that isn’t a pickup truck?)
My personal opinion, so take it for what it’s worth: I had a 2012 MINI Cooper S that was totaled. I’d been in the market for a car to replace it and test drove the Fusion. I was really not impressed at all. The transmission was really jerky (this was an A/T). Also, it had a general “cheap” feel I can’t explain, but the steering wheel in particular felt wrong to me, sort of like I was driving a 1983 Tempo.
I then test drove the new Taurus and was a lot more impressed. HOWEVER, I ended up going with a 2012 Kia Optima SX. Longer warranty and more features than the Taurus with a lot better gas mileage and longer warranty.
I’ve got 153,000 on a Neon. Doesn’t use oil.
I think the gap has closed much more than you think. I could easily see a Focus or Fusion lasting 200K, just as much as I could see a newer Accord. With proper maintenance, most modern cars should be able to last for many years. It all depends on how it’s driven, and how it is taken care off.
For Pete’s sake, I once drove a Fiat Spider. Bought the car with 71K on it, sold it years later with 225K on the odometer. Original engine, original transmission, just 3 clutches. My neighbor has a Ford Taurus with almost 300K on it, and it looks and runs like a car only a few years off the showroom, despite being about 10 years old.
Just so you don’t think I’m downplaying how good of a car Honda makes, know that I have a 2006 Honda Element as my DD, and my wife has a 2004 Civic Hybrid as her DD, both with over 100K and running strong.
I have two Honda Accords - one 1994, one 1999; both manual transmission, both near 200,000 miles.
Both run great.
If you decide to buy a new Accord, you might wait until the 2013 comes out. It’s a model change year and there are some more standard features.