I’m not sure if its being racist but I do notice certain people at work basically stick with their own kind at breaks and lunch and even on the workfloor tend to only talk to members of their own race.
Now I dont know if its racist or maybe they just dont feel comfortable or maybe they just dont find “others” to be interesting to talk to.
Not sure if this is jest or not, but it’s no more racist than deducing that most young black men listen to black music exclusively, or, at least predominantly. You have no figures to support your deduction, but it’s pretty obvious from repeated observation, and I doubt even the most stringent empiricists would argue against you. Humans associate and collaborate with their kind. It’s not racism, it’s anthropological fact. Now, the reason we do this may be rooted in racism, but acknowledging the fact that we do this is not racism.
If someone calls me a racist I ask, “What did I say that is not true?”
I am not a white supremacist. I acknowledge the higher average IQ’s of Orientals and Ashkenazi Jews. White supremacists get angry at me when I remind them that they are not as supreme as they want to think. :D:cool:
Pretty much everything.
Sure, you just hate black people and think they’re inferior.
ad hominem
You attacked your opponent’s character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.
Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone’s case without actually having to engage with it.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
My hatred for criminals knows no racial boundaries.
I do not believe that all blacks are criminals. I do not believe that all blacks are less intelligent than all whites. I do not hate all blacks, or even most of them. I do love facts. I do not care if anyone calls me a “racist” or not. I would like for “racist” to become an unacceptable word. It interferes with the dialogue on race we need to be having.
No, I attack your character because it’s shit (based on what you’ve posted so far). You also haven’t responded to my PM.
I attack your arguments, separately from my attacks on your person, because they are similarly shit.
Old shit that we’ve all seen before. Nothing new here.
You just think they’re inferior as a group. Got it.
The rest of America had this dialogue fifty years ago. Your side lost. So you can either abandon racism and rejoin the majority and cling to your beliefs and hang out with your shrinking circle of fellow racists. But you’re not going to turn back the clock. America will never again be the white dominated country you want it to be.
Fallacy of the excluded middle. You may or may not be racist, (I don’t know or care), but many racists are not White Supremacists.
Another response of mine is, “Define racist. I will tell you if I meet that definition.”
… And given the BANNED under his username, apparently he did.
meh
I don’t really care, but I do note that if you were racist and did not want to be so identified, you would simply describe yourself in a way to avoid the definition applying to you, regardless of reality.
Apparently, he only wore white socks.
Another warning sign:
You don’t date white women who ever dated a black man because A.I.D.S. (sic)
Also, those women put up with ebonics and probably want it from white guys, or something.
Sorry, couldn’t resist the necro. Too many dog whistles to ignore in this one:
Scientific racism at its finest.
Culture is the new eugenics.
Both arguments are essentially the same. They acknowledge that black people in this country face a wide range of terrible situations. But they deny racism is the cause for any of these terrible situations. Their counterargument is that there must be something inherently wrong with black people. Bad genes or bad culture or something else that’s vaguely defined and shows no evidence of actually existing.
Yep. And more of that here:
I have a feeling that that thread is going to be rich for citation in this thread.
Yeah, no matter how Anti-Racist you are, no one’s perfect. We all have blind spots.
I work hard to try to squash my own “casual racism” (hey, it’s a lot less work than the active kind). As well as sexism, and ageism, and homophobia, and trans-cluelessness (oh, and general squickiness about everyone else’s sexuality).
That’s the true issue in my opinion. Some people accept the bigotry that’s within them. Others decide it’s a problem and work on fixing it.
I don’t expect perfection in myself or in others. But I do expect to see efforts towards becoming better.
This is pretty much how I view the issue myself. I go easy on people for being ignorant or having blind spots if I feel that they’re otherwise people with good intentions; a racist or a bigot is someone who is bigoted and doesn’t feel the need to change their views. They’re comfortable with their own biases and use them to evaluate people. That’s where the most harm comes from.
Even so, subconscious bias is a problem in itself, which is how I perceive the importance of movements like BLM. The anti-racist movement isn’t just about going around to see who’s a racist and who’s not; it accepts that people have biases and wants ordinary people to be more aware of them, and to do something about it.
Kearsen1 has been on (or rather off) my radar for a while, but absolutely deserves to make this list for great contributions to the “discourse” like this one:
This part, in particular, is a gem:
Acting white is something that the white community can do jack and shit about. If the other cultures deem the things that white people do as “not for me” when a lot of the things they do also correlate to success, then wow, talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face.
In fact, I think that’s it. I put them on ignore for the similarly themed thread about constructed whiteness and their continued dodging and dishonesty.